Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the?Debian main page

2011-04-15 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:41:49PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: > > Sorry, I think I misunderstood the thread, I thought you wanted to > redesign the current web views of Debian packages so that it is somehow > more trendy/modern, but I now realised you only want to find it a > trendier/more modern n

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the?Debian main page

2011-04-15 Thread Enrico Zini
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:02:17PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > There is already a name: "AppStream". It comes with code and standards: > > http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream > > > > It's as good as any other, and I don't see the need to invent another > > one. > > I did not

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the?Debian main page

2011-04-15 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-04-15 at 12:10pm, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:49:14AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > To google" only means "to search the web using one specific service > > which happens to be very popular". Just as (at least in Denmark) > > non-geeks since long use the term "Wor

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the?Debian main page

2011-04-15 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:49:14AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > To google" only means "to search the web using one specific service > which happens to be very popular". Just as (at least in Denmark) > non-geeks since long use the term "Word" to mean "word processor" even > though it only me

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the?Debian main page

2011-04-15 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 09:10:47AM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: > I tried to post about it yesterday, but it doesn't seem to have been > noticed: http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2011/04/msg00054.html I perfectly noticed your posting and I completely agree with your point that it should be list

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the?Debian main page

2011-04-15 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-04-15 at 08:56am, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 08:14:47AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > And what is wrong with just plain "Applications"? I think the whole > > "app store" thing is blown out of proportion by the marketing teams > > of a few companies, we do not need

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the?Debian main page

2011-04-15 Thread Enrico Zini
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 08:56:46AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > was intended (and even if I do not like it personally - it is real). So > why not using the name "app store" for a large set of applications where > you can cherry pick from? I tried to post about it yesterday, but it doesn't seem

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the?Debian main page

2011-04-14 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 08:14:47AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > And what is wrong with just plain "Applications"? > I think the whole "app > store" thing is blown out of proportion by the marketing teams of a few > companies, we do not need to join he hype on this. I'm personally against hy

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the Debian main page

2011-04-14 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:06:33AM +0200, Jérôme wrote: > Small Apple "Apps" provide 1 contents and not 1 task, this is redundant > programming ( a browser for parents, a browser for children, a browser > for cat...). It's like ou must use vim for editing scripts emacs for > editing configs and ged

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the Debian main page

2011-04-14 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 14 April 2011 23.37:16 Steffen Möller wrote: > On 04/14/2011 11:28 PM, Andreas Tille wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 09:54:40AM -0700, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > >> I think a case could be made for Debian's apt system being the > >> original "app store" > > > > Yes. That's what I want

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the Debian main page

2011-04-14 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Thu, 14 Apr 2011, Steffen Möller wrote: > >And because there was a mail about not accepting the term app store > >because repository is such a good name: I have no idea whether > [...] > How about "Free App Store" ? The double meaning of "Free" So far I think this was be the best in terms of

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the Debian main page

2011-04-14 Thread Ben Finney
Charles Plessy writes: > I agree with Andreas. After saying “repository” three times I have > muscle pain in my mouth. Yes. It's a fine term for precision among fellow geeks, but it's a poor name for getting recognition by newcomers. > So our packages are not an application store because we do

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the Debian main page

2011-04-14 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:28:44PM +0200, Andreas Tille a écrit : > > And because there was a mail about not accepting the term app store > because repository is such a good name: I have no idea whether > repository is such a good name for native speakers. For non native > speakers it is not. H

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the Debian main page

2011-04-14 Thread Jérôme
Le jeudi 14 avril 2011 à 09:54 -0700, Noah Meyerhans a écrit : > It's funny that you'd say that, because traditionally the Unix > approach has been to use many small, task-specific "apps", not one big > monolithic system. Yes but no ( ̄~ ̄;)ウーン・・・ Unix app do 1 task or 1 job useful for any applica

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the Debian main page

2011-04-14 Thread Steffen Möller
On 04/14/2011 11:28 PM, Andreas Tille wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 09:54:40AM -0700, Noah Meyerhans wrote: I think a case could be made for Debian's apt system being the original "app store" Yes. That's what I wanted to say in my previous mail! And because there was a mail about not accept

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the Debian main page

2011-04-14 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 09:54:40AM -0700, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > I think a case could be made for Debian's apt system being the original > "app store" Yes. That's what I wanted to say in my previous mail! And because there was a mail about not accepting the term app store because repository is

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the Debian main page

2011-04-14 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 04:11:44PM +0200, Jérôme wrote: > Why using 100 apps for doing something that 1 browser can doing ? "App > store" is lineal heir to french "3615 Minitel". It's funny that you'd say that, because traditionally the Unix approach has been to use many small, task-specific "apps

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the Debian main page

2011-04-14 Thread Jérôme
Le jeudi 14 avril 2011 à 09:12 +0200, Klistvud a écrit : > The term "app store" is extremely well established and quite > univocally defines a store where apps are *sold*. Using the > term, or any subvariant of the term, is IMHO just bound to rise > eyebrows and confuse newbies. > > Non-newbies

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the Debian main page

2011-04-14 Thread Enrico Zini
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 05:47:18PM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > My proposal (which is orthogonal) is linking to applications, just to show > that Debian is not just an operating system as defined on our title page > ("set of basic programs and utilities that make your computer run.") It se

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the Debian main page

2011-04-14 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 13. 04. 2011 14:56:31 je Yaroslav Halchenko napisal(a): On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Andreas Tille wrote: > > My proposal (which is orthogonal) is linking to applications, just to show > > that Debian is not just an operating system as defined on our title page > > ("set of basic programs and ut

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the Debian main page

2011-04-13 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 07:22:36AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > We might justify this on the basis that “store” doesn't necessarily mean > a place where you buy things, only a place where things are stored for > later use; e.g. a farm's grain store or a hospital's medicine store. Ahh ... > Peop

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the Debian main page

2011-04-13 Thread Ben Finney
Yaroslav Halchenko writes: > On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Andreas Tille wrote: > > I recently wondered if we should use the (buzz word) "application > > store". I do not really like buzz words but we are de facto what > > people understand behind this word. I have no idea if we might be > > able to do be

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the Debian main page

2011-04-13 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Andreas Tille wrote: > > My proposal (which is orthogonal) is linking to applications, just to show > > that Debian is not just an operating system as defined on our title page > > ("set of basic programs and utilities that make your computer run.") > I recently wondered if w

Re: Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the Debian main page

2011-04-13 Thread Andreas Tille
[#622274 in CC] On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 05:47:18PM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > Yodel! DiDu! > ... > > Linking to blends and/or subprojects would be addressing target groups, > which would probably be useful. I do really like this suggestion! > My proposal (which is orthogonal) is link

Better visibility of "what can you do with Debian" on the Debian main page

2011-04-12 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Yodel! (I'm obviously picking up on the discussion sparked by the Med@Tel report/ blends on the main page thread) I had a quick look at the kde.org and gnome.org pages. I think the "blends on main page" is a sub-topic of "what can you do after you've installed Debian." On both the gnome.org a