Re: [SUMMARY] About terminology for stable/testing/unstable and related issues

2006-05-16 Thread Sven Mueller
Tapio Lehtonen wrote on 16/05/2006 08:14: > On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 06:29:52PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > > If stable/testing/unstable are branches (or suites), what are Ubuntu, > DeMuDi, SkoleLinux et al Debian based distributions? I would have > called them branches, from a version control

Re: [SUMMARY] About terminology for stable/testing/unstable and related issues

2006-05-16 Thread Floris Bruynooghe
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 09:14:31AM +0300, Tapio Lehtonen wrote: > If stable/testing/unstable are branches (or suites), what are Ubuntu, > DeMuDi, SkoleLinux et al Debian based distributions? I would have > called them branches, from a version control point of view. They're exactly that: "Debian ba

Re: [SUMMARY] About terminology for stable/testing/unstable and related issues

2006-05-15 Thread Tapio Lehtonen
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 06:29:52PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > I take the argument of "suite" being used in several tools as an > argument to increase the weight of "suite" but not a decisive > argument. > > After all, tools can be changed...:-) > > The terminology definition could also men

Re: [SUMMARY] About terminology for stable/testing/unstable and related issues

2006-05-14 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 09:54:31AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > Policy 2.2 calls them "sections" or "categories" (depending on whether > you go with the headline or the main text). Historically, policy's called "main/contrib/non-free" sections, and "base/admin/mail/etc" subsections; which is c

Re: [SUMMARY] About terminology for stable/testing/unstable and related issues

2006-05-13 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sat, 2006-05-13 at 09:54 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Adam D. Barratt: > > > On Tuesday, May 09, 2006 6:26 AM, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > >> Suite has already been used informally. For completeness, you should > >> also mention "section" (main, contrib, non-free) > >

Re: [SUMMARY] About terminology for stable/testing/unstable and related issues

2006-05-13 Thread Florian Weimer
* Adam D. Barratt: > On Tuesday, May 09, 2006 6:26 AM, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> * Christian Perrier: >> >>> Most concerns have been raised about my proposed use of "branch" for >>> talking about stable/testing/unstable. "Suite" seems better...suited, >>> indeed. >> >> Suite h

Re: [SUMMARY] About terminology for stable/testing/unstable and related issues

2006-05-12 Thread Sven Mueller
Christian Perrier wrote on 12/05/2006 18:29: >>Though AJ is correct in saying that "suite" is by several tools in >>Debian (apt-utils and dak he mentioned - I don't know about their use of >>suite - as well as reprepro), I think that from a non-native-english >>user perspective, "branch" is easier

Re: [SUMMARY] About terminology for stable/testing/unstable and related issues

2006-05-12 Thread Christian Perrier
> Though AJ is correct in saying that "suite" is by several tools in > Debian (apt-utils and dak he mentioned - I don't know about their use of > suite - as well as reprepro), I think that from a non-native-english > user perspective, "branch" is easier to grasp. And, indeed, as already mentione

Re: [SUMMARY] About terminology for stable/testing/unstable and related issues

2006-05-12 Thread Sven Mueller
Christian Perrier wrote on 10/05/2006 07:00: >>If there are no strong objections in -project, I'm opened to suggestions >>about the Right Way to handle the further life of this proposal, to >>make it alittle bit more "official": >> >>-conclude it and post in -devel-announce...:-) >> >>-make the dis

Re: [SUMMARY] About terminology for stable/testing/unstable and related issues

2006-05-11 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 07:00:56AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > I have to confess that I'm hardly balancing between both. Filipus > developed an interesting and well argumented explanation to push > "branch" and I find it convincing...at least as convincing as > "pro-suite" arguments. Suite i

Re: [SUMMARY] About terminology for stable/testing/unstable and related issues

2006-05-10 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Tuesday, May 09, 2006 6:26 AM, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Christian Perrier: > >> Most concerns have been raised about my proposed use of "branch" for >> talking about stable/testing/unstable. "Suite" seems better...suited, >> indeed. > > Suite has already been used informall

Re: [SUMMARY] About terminology for stable/testing/unstable and related issues

2006-05-09 Thread Christian Perrier
> If there are no strong objections in -project, I'm opened to suggestions > about the Right Way to handle the further life of this proposal, to > make it alittle bit more "official": > > -conclude it and post in -devel-announce...:-) > > -make the discussion wider in -devel and continue it there

Re: [SUMMARY] About terminology for stable/testing/unstable and related issues

2006-05-09 Thread Christian Perrier
> The word "section" already has an assigned meaning in Debian; each > package has its assigned section defined in its control file, > i.e. admin, editors, games, libs, mail, etc. I think that Florian's suggestion was adding a paragraph about "sections" in my document, not using "sections" for an

Re: [SUMMARY] About terminology for stable/testing/unstable and related issues

2006-05-09 Thread Chris Waters
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 07:26:19AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > Suite has already been used informally. For completeness, you should > also mention "section" (main, contrib, non-free) in your more official > writeup. You can sidestep the question whether sections besides main > are part of ver

Re: [SUMMARY] About terminology for stable/testing/unstable and related issues

2006-05-09 Thread Florian Weimer
* Christian Perrier: > Most concerns have been raised about my proposed use of "branch" for > talking about stable/testing/unstable. "Suite" seems better...suited, > indeed. Suite has already been used informally. For completeness, you should also mention "section" (main, contrib, non-free) in y

[SUMMARY] About terminology for stable/testing/unstable and related issues

2006-05-05 Thread Christian Perrier
Because of the runnign IRC talk, this thread has been quite short. However, this maybe shows that some egenral agreement pops about this issue, after all..:-) Most concerns have been raised about my proposed use of "branch" for talking about stable/testing/unstable. "Suite" seems better...suited,