Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-09-03 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 11:04:30PM +0200, Jordi Mallach wrote: > On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 12:29:01PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > > There is also another positive effect - this will make maintainers broaden > > their horizon by touching some other packages which I think would be > > a good th

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-09-02 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 06:42:53AM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > Maybe uploads should be restricted to cases where the maintainer is > unresponsive. A bug could be taged as game_done and after some time a > NMU could be allowed. Ah, that's where I wanted to get. If there's a month to get the st

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-09-02 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 12:12:41AM +0200, Jordi Mallach wrote: > On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 12:24:48AM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: > > > Well, if with "touching" you mean NMU'ing right away to score a point, I > > > wouldn't call it "possitive". > > That's why new bugs are assigned only once a mont

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-09-02 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Please consider http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?BehavioralEffectOfMetrics. > > > > Especially following section: > > > > | As JimCoplien has been saying for years (repeating an old adage), > > | "What gets measured gets done." Measure the Severity A bug rep

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-09-02 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Jordi Mallach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 12:24:48AM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: > > > Well, if with "touching" you mean NMU'ing right away to score a point, I > > > wouldn't call it "possitive". > > That's why new bugs are assigned only once a month, though. Players

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-09-01 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 12:24:48AM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: > > Well, if with "touching" you mean NMU'ing right away to score a point, I > > wouldn't call it "possitive". > That's why new bugs are assigned only once a month, though. Players > will have one month to get their bugs fixed, and

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-09-01 Thread Richard Braakman
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 11:04:30PM +0200, Jordi Mallach wrote: > On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 12:29:01PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > > There is also another positive effect - this will make maintainers broaden > > their horizon by touching some other packages which I think would be > > a good th

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-09-01 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 12:29:01PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > There is also another positive effect - this will make maintainers broaden > their horizon by touching some other packages which I think would be > a good thing for Debian. Well, if with "touching" you mean NMU'ing right away t

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-09-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
Somebody gave my mail system an atomic wedgie, I'm just going to batch these up... On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 12:29:22AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > fixing bugs, to simply closing them in the BTS. Sometimes, it's good to > keep bugs open in the BTS > (tagged w/ wontfix, These will be eliminated

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-08-31 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 08:30:15PM +0200, Michael Banck écrivait: > On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 06:48:39PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > Do you have a log of this discussion ? I'd be interested in the > > details... > > I've got a log of the discussion at > http://people.debian.org/~mbanck/debb

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-08-31 Thread Adam Heath
On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Peter Makholm wrote: > Andres Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > fixing bugs, to simply closing them in the BTS. Sometimes, it's good to > > keep bugs open in the BTS (tagged w/ wontfix, documenting a problem that > > other people may bring up; or tagged w/ unreproduca

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-08-31 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 06:48:39PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Do you have a log of this discussion ? I'd be interested in the > details... I've got a log of the discussion at http://people.debian.org/~mbanck/debbugs-log sorry for the misleading name... HTH, Michael -- Overfiend: many

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-08-30 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 06:21:46PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sat, 31 Aug 2002, Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 11:23:23AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > > - Destructive help - This person shouldn't ever touch my packages > > > > again > > >

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-08-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 31 Aug 2002, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 11:23:23AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > - Destructive help - This person shouldn't ever touch my packages again > > Heh. Someone fucking up bash's essential behaviour comes to mind. It > > happened once. > >

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-08-30 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 11:23:23AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > - Destructive help - This person shouldn't ever touch my packages again > Heh. Someone fucking up bash's essential behaviour comes to mind. It > happened once. Yeah, screw you too. (Actually it's happened more th

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-08-30 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 03:45:18AM +0100, Andrew Suffield écrivait: > People register to play, and each month, all the players are given > three randomly selected bugs to tackle. Points are awarded to those I had a similar idea long ago but I never tried to do anything with it because of the possi

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-08-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Peter Makholm wrote: > Andres Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > fixing bugs, to simply closing them in the BTS. Sometimes, it's good to > > keep bugs open in the BTS (tagged w/ wontfix, documenting a problem that > > other people may bring up; or tagged w/ unreproducable

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-08-30 Thread Peter Makholm
Andres Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > fixing bugs, to simply closing them in the BTS. Sometimes, it's good to > keep bugs open in the BTS (tagged w/ wontfix, documenting a problem that > other people may bring up; or tagged w/ unreproducable, as another [...] Of course this shouldn't ch

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-08-30 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 12:29:22AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > Interesting idea. I'd be interested in a list of the negative aspects > of this, that you came up w/. My personal feeling is against it, as it > changes the focus people have; the goal people have changes from > fixing bugs, to sim

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-08-30 Thread Torsten Landschoff
> People register to play, and each month, all the players are given > three randomly selected bugs to tackle. Points are awarded to those > whose assigned bugs get fixed during that month, with the idea being > that people would endeavour to ensure their bugs get fixed swiftly, by > whatever mea

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-08-30 Thread David Schmitt
[Please Cc: me since I am not subscribed, I hope mutt figures this out] On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 03:45:18AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > Here's the basic idea: turn bug-fixing into a game (a counterbalance > to the huge quantities of time which moon-buggy and frozen-bubble have > taken away fro

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-08-29 Thread Andres Salomon
Interesting idea. I'd be interested in a list of the negative aspects of this, that you came up w/. My personal feeling is against it, as it changes the focus people have; the goal people have changes from fixing bugs, to simply closing them in the BTS. Sometimes, it's good to keep bugs open in

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-08-29 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 03:45:18AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > [Obey M-F-T or die] Funny. Last followup I saw was on -devel... > Here's the basic idea: turn bug-fixing into a game (a counterbalance > to the huge quantities of time which moon-buggy and frozen-bubble have > taken away from Deb

"Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-08-29 Thread Andrew Suffield
[Obey M-F-T or die] Here's the basic idea: turn bug-fixing into a game (a counterbalance to the huge quantities of time which moon-buggy and frozen-bubble have taken away from Debian development). People register to play, and each month, all the players are given three randomly selected bugs to t