Re: CoC / procedural abuse

ieve listmaster@ (or at > least, I) would be willing to write up a specification for the > software. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO e...@brainfood.com 214-720-0700 x 315 Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a sub

Re: CoC / procedural abuse

- "Russ Allbery" wrote: > The actual code may be extremely simple, only two or three lines. It's > getting the right lines in the right place in a way that works for the > people who are doing the day-to-day work that's the hard part. I hereby do solemnly volunteer to write an "coc unban [AD

Re: CoC / procedural abuse

- "Charles Plessy" wrote: > I guess that the story is simpler than this: time-limited bans do not seem to > be supported natively in Debian's mailing list engine (SmartList), so if one > wants to see our listmasters use time-limited bans more often, then somebody > has to spend time to implem

Re: Code of Conduct violations handling process

- "Ean Schuessler" wrote: > I'm saying it *does* do that but I am saying that we can't ever > allow it to. Oops. Should read "I'm not saying it *does* do that...". Sorry. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a s

Re: Code of Conduct violations handling process

- "Russ Allbery" wrote: > At least in the United States, people who use the term "political > correctness" in all seriousness as something they dislike and think is > bad are generally people with whom you would not want to share a project > and people who you would be best off avoiding. Thi

Re: Code of Conduct violations handling process

- "Zenaan Harkness" wrote: > Or perhaps a +1/-1 button, and it acts as a voting process, > whilst the +1s are winning the microphone stays on :) +1! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debia

Re: open source or free software?

ot; wrote: > There has been some chat on my recent blog post[1] and #debian-devel > about whether the terms "open source" or "free software" provide more > correct or useful terminology. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO e...@brainfood.com 214-720-0700 x 315 Brainfood, Inc. htt

Re: The Code of Conduct needs specifics

- "Russ Allbery" wrote: > I think this is a mistake. > > The experiences of other groups have mostly convinced me that the > point of > a Code of Conduct should be to scare away potential contributors who > cannot or are unwilling to behave according to the standards that we > expect of our

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

- "Henrique de Moraes Holschuh" wrote: > Agreed. It will serve no purpose but to put everyone at risk [of > legal > actions] and extra nuisances. We can have a private location with > this data > which only DDs can access for governance purposes, if required (and I > *do not* think it is re

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

- "Ian Jackson" wrote: > This isn't really true IMO. Someone who is banned can always send a > message privately to a sympathetic contributor, who can forward it if > it seems relevant or interesting. (I have in fact done this for a > contributor who was under some kind of cloud, when they

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

- "Wouter Verhelst" wrote: > # Debian Code of Conduct ... > ## In case of problems > > Serious or persistent offenders will be temporarily or permanently > banned from communicating through Debian's systems. Complaints should > be made (in private) to the administrators of the Debian commun

Re: Debian services and Debian infrastructure

- "Thomas Goirand" wrote: > My first remark about this would be: do we have any other cloud > software > that can extensively use something like Ceph for distributed storage? > Because for me, distributed storage is a mandatory piece which we > have > to implement when thinking about cloud co

Re: Debian services and Debian infrastructure

We've implemented OpenNebula here at Brainfood and after having had some experience with it I would say that having that kind of infrastructure simplifies management rather than making it more complicated. Having a bunch of hand baked KVMs running without coordinated migration or shared storage is

Re: Proposed MBF - mentions of the word "Ubuntu"

-target-a-site-critical-of-ubuntu-privacy/ > > Normally we take a relaxed approach to trademarks.  We use them, > expecting that in the cases where trademark law gives the trademark > holder a say, the holder approves of our uses, which we think are > unobjectionable. -- Ean

Re: [Debconf-discuss] "Anonymous donation" to Debconf 13

ce on this thread (and, indeed, directly > contrary assertions from people I think we all have reason to trust) that > the withdrawn offer had any material effect on the choice of venue. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO e...@brainfood.com 214-720-0700 x 315 Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com

A Software Populist Who Doesn't Do Windows

r Debian's achievements... so, I... won't. I do like how the article mentions Debian's 1000+ volunteers in place of a count of Ubuntu's. I also like Mark's lead quote: “It feels pretty clear to me that the open process produces better stuff,” -- Ean Schuessler, CTO Brain

Re: Results of the Lenny release GR

lone. Please do not ask for another GR unless you want one. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO Brainfood.com e...@brainfood.com - http://www.brainfood.com - 214-720-0700 x 315

Re: Results of the Lenny release GR

. Do not take this as an expression of distaste on my part. There are no "enemies" here, just people disagreeing passionately. Passion is good, we just need to channel it properly. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO Brainfood.com e...@brainfood.com - http://www.brainfood.com - 214-720-0700 x 315

Re: Results of the Lenny release GR

solution by the next release. So I'm sorry Robert, your heart is absolutely in the right place but I agree that we should release Lenny. I encourage you to "go with flow" and think about structuring the solution down the road. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO Brainfood.com e...@brainfood.com - http://www.brainfood.com - 214-720-0700 x 315

Re: Call for vote (Re: call for seconds: on firmware)

quot;Manoj Srivastava" wrote: > Here is the *DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT* ballot for the GR. Please note > the dates on the ballot; voting is not open yet. > > Please send comments to the debian-v...@lists.debian.org list. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO Brainfood.com e...@brainfood.com

Re: [OT] Free software for social networks.

ect (expect a > low probability of success, we lost the momentum to get public money). Nah. Its not true! Redhat has MugShot. There is ShinDig from Apache. I've been doing some work to hook ShinDig into OFBiz, which has its "party management" tools that are quite a bit more sophist

Debian on Causes (Facebook and MySpace)

e of us have friends who aren't die-hard computer nerds and, yes, there is a world beyond Advogato. Now shut up and go make your less nerdy friends give money to Debian. Oh, I gave $50 to Debian too. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO Brainfood.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.brainfood.com - 21

Re: Member distributions and popularity

. The Eclipse variants are not buried down deep in their site, they are heavily promoted at a top level. That's what I'm saying we should mimic. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO Brainfood.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.brainfood.com - 214-720-0700 x 315 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [

Re: Member distributions and popularity

- "Andreas Tille" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I do not think that Ean is talking about Debian Pure Blends because the > most important feature of a Blend is that it is actually NO derivative. > (That's why we call them now not CDD any more because this very fre

Re: Member distributions and popularity

27;t think that would be a problem... but the point is specifically to promote those distributions that maintain a good working relationship (and some level of compatibility) with us. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO Brainfood.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.brainfood.com - 214-720-0700 x 315

Re: Member distributions and popularity

ready exist and would love this kind of program. It would give them more visibility and a sense of quality and good community behavior. It would help users avoid things that we know are badly behaved. Most of all it would expand the visibility of the Debian umbrella so that we feel like

Re: Member distributions and popularity

- "Noah Meyerhans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When Ean suggested borrowing ideas from Eclipse, I don't think he meant > charge people to be Debian derivatives (or did you interpret it some > other way?) Right. I'm more suggesting that we provide

Member distributions and popularity

rrow some ideas from them? http://www.eclipse.org/membership/special_programs/member-downloads-program.php Thanks. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO Brainfood.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.brainfood.com - 214-720-0700 x 315 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "u

Re: "Debian Powered" Logo

operational without that software. You will never see a situation (to the extent it is within the power of the project to prevent it) where you must install parts of non-free in order to use Debian. The distinction is quite clear. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] 214-720-070

Re: Minutes of an Ubuntu-Debian discussion that happened at Debconf

Lucas Nussbaum wrote: I've been working on this specifically. The idea is to create an Ubuntu team which would interact by volunteer DD more closely (filing bugs for their packages in the BTS for all relevant issues, for example). On the other hand, the DD would have to act promptly on those bugs

Re: "Debian Powered" Logo

Raphael Hertzog wrote: Indeed, that's why it's great that Ubuntu is ready to make it more obvious that they are Debian based. I very much agree. I never had a problem with the fact that Canonical is willing to capitalize improvements to Debian. I never cared for their "de-branding" of Debian

Re: Call for a new DPL mediation ... This will be the only thread i will reply to in the next time about this issue.

Frans Pop wrote: Bah. That is a gross overexaggeration. No arch has been killed in d-i. d-i is, and will remain, perfectly capable of installing powerpc. As I've said before, there may be a temporary reduction in support (specifically for the lesser used subarchitectures), but there is absolut

Re: Call for a new DPL mediation ... This will be the only thread i will reply to in the next time about this issue.

Manoj Srivastava wrote: We are indeed a volunteer group. We need to at least work well enough together so it remains fun enough for the volunteers to continue to volunteer. When one individual cause enough fun to be sucked out from other people, we need ti step back and figure the s

Re: Call for a new DPL mediation ... This will be the only thread i will reply to in the next time about this issue.

Matthew Garrett wrote: No. A GR can override any decision made by the DPL, a delegate or the technical committee. A GR can not override a decision made by an individual developer or a team of developers. I guess you could argue that svn.debian.org is adminned by a delegate of the DPL, and a G

Re: Call for a new DPL mediation ... This will be the only thread i will reply to in the next time about this issue.

Manoj Srivastava wrote: It is also very upsetting when technical discussions immediately escalate into insults, distortion of motivation, accusations of wanting to hurt Debian, or the users, of being hide bound in pride and stupidity, having agendas that smack of discrimination, power

Re: Call for a new DPL mediation ... This will be the only thread i will reply to in the next time about this issue.

cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: - AFAIK nobody is arguing that Sven's patches aren't up to snuff technically - AFAIK he hasn't ever abused his d-i commit rights (when he had them) These are critical questions. As an uninvolved third-party I have still not been able to determine why his ac

Re: debian-niggers and debian-lgbt projects.

Matthias Julius wrote: Or a little more direct: Matthias I have suspected for some time the GNAA has a number of "sleeper agents" infiltrated into Debian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubsc

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

ccess to the world's information resources, not to filter and censor them to meet some unquantifiable moral ideal. Users should make those choices for themselves. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] 214-720-0700 x 315 Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Advertising on Planet Debian

a day for something like that to roll off. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] 214-720-0700 x 315 Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: getting lully back on-line [Was, Re: I'll be a son of a bitch.]

don't think we are talking about any great investment here. It just needs an IDE boot drive. It might be worth buying two and doing RAID so that we don't end up in this situation again. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: I'll be a son of a bitch.

rresponded with someone. If someone's idea of unresponsive is us saying "root disk is dead and we don't have time to figure out an Alpha install" then that may explain the current status. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: GFDL freedoms

On Thursday 14 April 2005 12:58 am, Glenn Maynard wrote: > Computer programs are useful tools, even if you can't change them. So are laws? -- Ean Schuessler, CTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] 214-720-0700 x 315 Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: I'll be a son of a bitch.

older SCSI disk or a new one with a > proper connector will do. Looking at SPI's/Debian's funds, even a purchase > should be possible (assuming that the then or now DPL agrees). -- Ean Schuessler, CTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] 214-720-0700 x 315 Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com

Re: I'll be a son of a bitch.

ts to requisition a new drive and figure out what it takes to put an image on it then we can get Lully booting again. We can even buy it local if I see some kind of SPI/Debian expense approval on buying some particular size/model. I have no idea what does and does not work correctly in that unit.

Re: I'll be a son of a bitch.

. I'm already doing more than you are with regard to Lully so why don't you pitch in? -- Ean Schuessler, CTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] 214-720-0700 x 315 Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debconf5 IRC meeting minutes

nience of routing the video over the network. Just my .02 -- Ean Schuessler, CTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] 214-720-0700 x 315 Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: I'll be a son of a bitch.

y 13 April 2005 2:26 pm, Andreas Barth wrote: > Actually, there are things I'm much more worried about. E.g. lully being > down for ages, and http://db.debian.org/machines.cgi?host=lully reads: > Status: down - root fs drive died, no response from local admin -- Ean Schuessler, CTO [

Re: feedback, please: what was good, what bad?

al for authenticity. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] 214-720-0700 x 315 Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: feedback, please: what was good, what bad?

anything) but I never received my ballot. I even did the "Leader 2005" subject thing (or whatever) to request a resend. I was convinced that it was my spam filtering or some nonsense but I still can't find it. I'm at a loss. I'm pretty much 100% sure that this is a problem

I'll be a son of a bitch.

he hatchet, smoke'em peace pipe and extend the olive branch. Branden, congratulations on your election and good luck as DPL. ~Ean -- Ean Schuessler, CTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] 214-720-0700 x 315 Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com pgpR0PvEqnQaN.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Spi-trademark] Re: debian domains

s time to stop being fearful little pansies about this. > While we whine and quake "Ooooh, somebody could sue us, oh no oh no oh > no" we are in significant danger of creating an estoppel that will allow > anyone to use the Debian trademark for anything. > > It is time t

Re: debian domains

dgeable, but > I'd imagine that a C&D followed if necessary by an ICANN UDRP proceeding > would be the way to go. I await the trademark committee's input. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Small teams and other platform positions...

an equilibrium of competing small organizations is the most free and efficient system then I think we agree. One key is to avoid the creation of oligopilies or monopolies. That is exactly why I'm against these physical meetings for decision making. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Small teams and other platform positions...

hould be focused on electronic methods to improve our ability to cooperate. Physical meetings are fine, but not as a method for day-to-day operations. IMHO. > Your post was which of these? I'm a one-man cabal, so everything I say should be regarded as propaganda. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO [EMA

Re: Small teams and other platform positions...

> Well I happen to believe constant low-intensity warfare between small, > mutually suspicious tribes is the optimum environment for liberty but > that's another discussion. Sounds more like a recipe for being mugged repeatedly by street gangs and hiding fearfully in your house.

Small teams and other platform positions...

pe we can focus our group on discrete systems instead of cliques and cabals. With code, even the most antisocial person can distill good intentions into a tireless and helpful servant. Humans will always be subject to their personal failings and tantrums. Let's remember to be lazy programmers a

Annual report.

One of my responsibilities as SPI President was to provide an annual report of SPI's operations for the year. I have not been able to obtain sufficient information to prepare such a report. The only details I have in my personal possession are the results from processing the backlog of SPI finan

Re: Idea: debian representative @ conferences

I had a random thought: why not institute a rule/program that only > past Debian leaders may speak at conferences (except for debconf)? -- Ean Schuessler, CTO Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com

A few comments.

the experiment is deemed a failure then it is a failure of approach and technique but not of spirit. We will debug the code and the system will operate. One way or another, one day or another. Faithfully yours in happy hacking, ~Ean ps. I would like to thank Wichert Ackerman for the fine work he ha

Re: GNU Hurd and Linux

Yes. We will indeed be phasing out Linux support when Hurd is ready. We plan to do this in tandem to our switchover to 100% photon based computing cores and the new GNUeron Hallucinatronic machine-brain interface. Some people claim this deadline is not reachable by 2012. The Mayan lunar producti

On the uselessness of Debian trademarks.

il in front of any attorneys, I would be very curious to hear their thoughts. E -- Ean Schuessler, CTO Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com

Re: Please Join SPI (was Re: The Sky is Not Falling)

Thursday 06 May 2004 03:41 am, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists wrote: > I guess someone needs to pay for some of Debian's infrastructure, > assumed that no sponsor would be giving it to Debian for free. That > needs to be *some* entity. The fact that it's an US one is second

Re: Re: Kill the DPL! (Elections are almost over)

> Clearly, we should make him SPI president! Being the SPI President is a much uglier responsibility, as you shall soon learn. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com

Re: Re: Kill the DPL! (Elections are almost over)

er' would do more, if (s)he is not > DPL. Attending conferences and Debian stuff would be a decrease on the > efficiency. > > Besides, you cannot force anybody to be someone or something: If he > wants to be DPL, he will postulate and show work which endorse it. -- Ean Schu

Kill the DPL! (Elections are almost over)

about distributed control, right? That's the idea with the Internet isn't it? Why do we need a leader? I challenge the next DPL to implement my plan. Who's with me? -- Ean Schuessler, Sinister President of SPI Software in the Public Interest, Inc. A Debian Brand Cabal *This mail co

Re: A sensible plan for non-free

dly vote for keeping non-free, do you think you > would really make them smile when locking away non-free? > > Since it gets into conflict with the social contract wrt. distribution > of non-free software, it'll require a GR as well, I guess. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com

A sensible plan for non-free

ike to hear opinions on whether this plan requires a further General Resolution or whether it could be adopted as a methodology of fulfilling Proposal-0008 and put into action by the DPL if the DPL is so inclined. - -- Ean Schuessler, President Software in the Public Interest, Inc. http://www.sp