Re: NEW review & revision process (or lack thereof) (Re: Growing new FTP-masters (Re: Bits from DPL))

2025-03-10 Thread Philip Hands
ch may be a good way of avoiding new contributors becoming intimidated by the assumption that everyone else is doing a perfect job. Cheers, Phil. -- Philip Hands -- https://hands.com/~phil signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Peter Miller memorial page

2025-01-02 Thread Philip Hands
rchive.org/web/20240810022333/https://www.debian.org/News/2014/20141020 All the news directories before 2022 seem to have gone, so I guess that was caught in a generalised tidying effort. There is still this: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/obituaries.en.html#2014-07-pm

Debian Tartan: Establishing a sustainable supply

2024-11-15 Thread Philip Hands
e weavers nowadays all sell things in metric, whereas the tailors quote their dimensions in Imperial (I guess there's a 9.3% profit involved if you can sell yards of cloth at per-meter prices ;-) ) -- Philip Hands -- https://hands.com/~phil signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: A quiet reminder: please be considerate.

2022-03-26 Thread Philip Hands
-- I hope at least that the stats were faintly interesting. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Re: A quiet reminder: please be considerate.

2022-03-26 Thread Philip Hands
ejection/discard reply for. I suppose there would also be the possibility that none of the moderators replied at all, but looking at all the moderation mails that match 'norbert', each thread includes at least 2 messages, so at least one moderator has replied to each. If you tell me messa

Re: A quiet reminder: please be considerate.

2022-03-25 Thread Philip Hands
the chance to approve/reject messages (on the rare occasions when the other moderators don't beat me to it). I've only rejected a handful of messages, and they were almost all obvious SPAM, and IIRC one trolling attempt from a throw-away address, not otherwise involved in the discussion

Re: Banning Norbert Preining from planet.d.o

2022-03-23 Thread Philip Hands
scussion so far has tried to argue that we'll somehow be poorer for being less exposed to his writings, but only that some procedure might not have been followed properly. Cheers, Phil. P.S. the resort to an argument about procedure does seem very reminiscent of the recently referenced wartime sabot

Re: Salsa call for volunteers (was: Salsa upgrade, history and future)

2022-03-11 Thread Philip Hands
ack of activity until now, I would completely understand (and not be even slightly upset) if the answer is 'no', but in that case please remove me from the salsa-admin mail alias. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/htt

Re: What does it mean to be inclusive

2022-02-22 Thread Philip Hands
ctive. AFAIK we average about an expulsion a decade, so how much higher a bar do you want to set for expulsions? BTW I would interpret this mail of yours as pointlessly argumentative, which strikes me as a continuation of the pattern that others have pointed out. Please give it a rest now. Che

Re: Polling informally Debian Contributors

2022-02-17 Thread Philip Hands
Sam Hartman writes: > While discussing secret ballots over on debian-vote, we got a little off > topic and started discussing the value of a mechanism to express > agreement/disagreement with messages in a mailing list thread. > > >>>>>> "Russ" == Rus

Re: Debian and fingerprint readers

2021-03-05 Thread Philip Hands
ce to me, that we should not lightly inflict on unsuspecting users just because *shiny finger scanner*. I'd expect that people that want their fingerprint scanners to be in use are mostly aware of that fact, so as long as we make the optional packages easily installable, that seems com

Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19

2020-08-20 Thread Philip Hands
ID? If not, then either our proceedures are already broken enough that temproarily slackening keysigning protocols won't make the slightest difference, or the threat is probably not worth worrying about. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.

Re: FW: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-05 Thread Philip Hands
h unsupported hardware that Debian has, so may need things fixed before it's suitable, depending on the current issues on any particular hardware. Cheers, Phil. [ Typed on my X230 :-) ] -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: distributed moderation of mailinglist

2020-02-23 Thread Philip Hands
tors blocking mails from real people who want to do constructive things related to Debian, then we could always include some sort of appeals mechanism for people that feel that they've had mails unfairly rejected. Do you really expect such a mechanism to be needed? Cheers, Phil. -

Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the CoC

2019-12-31 Thread Philip Hands
Philip Hands writes: ... > "I wish I could say I would would have charged against him" Argh -- I messed up the edit of that line too *blush* -- here you go: "I wish I could say I would _not_ have charged against him" Oh well, never mind. Have a nice New Year eve

Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the CoC

2019-12-31 Thread Philip Hands
hat was already obviously upset. It really doesn't reflect well on you, and it is absolutely certain not to help anyone. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: GR proposal: mandating VcsGit and VcsBrowser for all packages, using the "gbp patches unapplied" layout, and maybe also mandating hosted on Salsa

2019-07-24 Thread Philip Hands
behaviour that set some unconscious flag in me, probably harking back to Joey's thread-patterns post. Anyway, it looks like people are speaking up for themselves now, which is good. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk

Re: GR proposal: mandating VcsGit and VcsBrowser for all packages, using the "gbp patches unapplied" layout, and maybe also mandating hosted on Salsa

2019-07-23 Thread Philip Hands
d to this issue themselves, rather than immediately firing off a series of emails that give the impression that you are personally upset about this? You may be responding on behalf of people who turn out not to exist. Cheers, Phil -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd.

Re: GR proposal: mandating VcsGit and VcsBrowser for all packages, using the "gbp patches unapplied" layout, and maybe also mandating hosted on Salsa

2019-07-23 Thread Philip Hands
data surrounding the repo, that might be stuck inside the proprietary service, so maybe that's not a complete fix. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: farewell

2019-07-23 Thread Philip Hands
e just now). As you can see, all the text logs are there for your grep-ing pleasure, having been produced by rsyslogd as you would expect, whereas /var/log/journal/ is absent, so there are no binary logs being saved. So it seems just a little odd that you managed to get upset by it. Cheers, Phil

Re: Sounding board for Debian forums?

2019-07-09 Thread Philip Hands
assuming we can ensure that we don't get invaded by trolls, but equally are able to get non-debian people with legitimate interests in whatever question to join in, it might be worth a look. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.c

Re: Debian supports pridemonth?

2019-07-02 Thread Philip Hands
ng a "month of welcome" for $GROUP not imply that we're not > welcoming $GROUP all the other time? I think it's possible that you can answer that yourself, if I ask an analogous question: Does having a Bug Squashing Party not imply that we're not welcoming bugfixes a

Re: Accessibility of Ledger Reports

2019-06-13 Thread Philip Hands
be a bit of a surprise). There are a few differences in what hledger supports: https://github.com/simonmichael/hledger/wiki/FAQ#features but I don't find it difficult to keep my accounts compatible with both. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-|

Re: RFC: endorse debian-mentors as entrance to our infrastructure projects

2019-06-09 Thread Philip Hands
Adrian Bunk writes: > On Sun, Jun 09, 2019 at 02:56:53PM +0200, Philip Hands wrote: >> Adrian Bunk writes: >> > On Sun, Jun 09, 2019 at 12:55:14PM +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: >>... >> >> [1] Let me give two examples for such "infrastructure projects

Re: RFC: endorse debian-mentors as entrance to our infrastructure projects

2019-06-09 Thread Philip Hands
k the problem described exists? or just because you think life is a hopeless shuffle towards our inevitable oblivion and that any glimmer of hope needs to be exposed as the delusion that it is? Personally, I think this is a good idea. At worst someone might get told to talk the people that th

Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-22 Thread Philip Hands
u would find it acceptable to remove someone else's blog simply because you disagree with them. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Censorship in Debian

2019-01-04 Thread Philip Hands
suggests a belief in a right to demand syndication for one's blog, which is not a right I'm aware of. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Planet Debian revisions

2019-01-02 Thread Philip Hands
;s I'll go ahead and change it. +1 Cheers, Phil. P.S. with the caveat that I'd prefer "contact" to "reach out to", but that's probably just me showing my age, or some such. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Do we need embargoes for GPL compliance issues?

2018-09-17 Thread Philip Hands
be accused of, so calculating damages is going to be hopeless. The troll will get their clever little scheme rather more publicity than they'd prefer, which will make it that much harder to do it to the next victim. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd

Re: Naming A New Build

2018-02-07 Thread Philip Hands
have to be something other than having a Debian release named after him. Yours sincerely, Philip Hands. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: I'm scared and offended by your kfreebsd port. Sorry. Please help me feel better?

2017-06-05 Thread Philip Hands
ibleonline.org/Matthew-7-18/ However, I'm not sure if that's going to make you feel any better. Sorry. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests

2017-05-11 Thread Philip Hands
me wonder what useful purpose this could serve beyond a virtue signalling opportunity. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Formal declaration of weak package ownership in source packages (was: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers)

2016-12-12 Thread Philip Hands
o that even timid folk could be confident that the person they were dealing with was on their side. > It would also help if third parties kept their rants to a minimum. I'm not sure what sanction we could enforce for contempt of TC ;-) Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-09 Thread Philip Hands
t you will put this outcome. In this particular instance, at least a week of the time spent on this mess was devoted to dealing with you -- don't do anything like that again. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-05 Thread Philip Hands
Tollef Fog Heen writes: > ]] Philip Hands > >> Tollef Fog Heen writes: >> >> > ]] Ian Jackson >> > >> >> That is 6+ weeks' more stop-energy. 6+ weeks' more inaction. 6+ >> >> weeks during which members of the TC have bee

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-05 Thread Philip Hands
h has drifted into using that as a synonym for procrastinate while American English seems to have stuck to its earlier meaning (judging by the online dictionary entries I see). I certainly didn't (and still wouldn't) assume that Ian was accusing anyone of lying here. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Ph

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-05 Thread Philip Hands
h a temperature, both kids are coughing and spluttering, and I too have a cold, so time's been a bit short today. Hopefully my reply doesn't seem too much out of sequence -- I've not been attempting to follow subsequent discussion until I got it sent. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-05 Thread Philip Hands
Ian Jackson writes: > Philip Hands writes ("Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers"): >> this NOOP, > > I'm very surprised to see you say that you think this is a no-op. > > ISTM that in the current argument, the TC has given the position of &g

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-03 Thread Philip Hands
7;s trust, so of course I'd resign if that happened -- not that I consider that likely, but then again this is 2016 ... anything might happen. ;-) Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: another bulk order of kilts for debconf17? Was: New Debian kilts

2016-09-02 Thread Philip Hands
Anibal Monsalve Salazar writes: > On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 7:26 AM, Philip Hands wrote: > > For those who don't know the origins and the meaning of the Debian > tartan, which was registered by Phil, read the registration notes at: > > https://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/tart

Re: another bulk order of kilts for debconf17? Was: New Debian kilts

2016-09-01 Thread Philip Hands
rder, to make sure that there was a decent amount of stock left over, such that people could then buy cloth without having to get over the hurdle of starting another weaving run. Of course, if that were to be done, we will need someone to look after the cloth that remains in stock until it is sold. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: academic alliances or the like

2016-04-10 Thread Philip Hands
t; Debian related resources. There is a lot, and maybe it will not be hard > work to compile and gift wrap a "Linux from scratch using Debian" > course. Not Debian specific, but perhaps also of interest: http://performance.linaro.org/ they're hoping to get Universities involved: http://performance.linaro.org/start/#universities Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: "Do you want to mount the drive, 'cancel' or 'allow'?"

2015-09-22 Thread Philip Hands
cykit, why are you running them ? My reading of Marcin's mail suggested that he'd avoided installing systemd, given the bit about: >> ... lack of systemd ... which made me think that the rudeness about the people associated with systemd was simply irrelevant. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Phili

Re: What it means to be Debian

2015-06-17 Thread Philip Hands
it's time to step away from the keyboard and get a breath of fresh air instead. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Doubt.

2015-04-16 Thread Philip Hands
e only time one is going to see any significant difference is if one uses the CD images, and chooses to only use a fraction of the set, at which point one might find that Gnome is available from CD while the other desktops still need to be downloaded, but if you're wanting MATE then you will not

Re: NCR unix system v/386 release 4 recover root password

2015-03-22 Thread Philip Hands
: : :\n b i n ... becomes something like r o o t : : 0 : 9 9 9 9 9 : 0 : : :\n w x y z : * : : : : : :\n b i n ... HTH If that all sounds too confusing, you just need to find someone to whom it makes sense, and get them to do it for you. Not understanding what you are trying to do will most p

Re: CD Images

2015-03-04 Thread Philip Hands
http://isup.me/cdimage.debian.org Cheers, Phil. P.S. I can never remember the sites that do that, but as a user of duckduckgo.com, I do remember that one can search for things like: !down cdimage.debian.org (or !isitup, !isup, etc. -- search for !bang to see the vast list) -- |)| Philip

Re: Why are in-person meetings required for the debian keyring?

2015-02-11 Thread Philip Hands
It's > a well known and remarkably strong way of authenticating something. > Currently the best known deployment of it in is Bitcoin which uses it as > the foundation for block chain security. > > The weakness of the current method is shown by one of the responses > given here:

Re: Why are in-person meetings required for the debian keyring?

2015-02-11 Thread Philip Hands
sneak back in under a different name. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Announcing a Debian Hamradio Blend

2014-12-11 Thread Philip Hands
y to keep debian-devel-announce topical. Andreas obviously got confused and picked a reply to the announcement that he was supposed to be forwarding, rather than the announcement itself: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/12/msg00063.html Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)2

Re: GR proposal, Call for Seconds - term limit for the tech-ctte

2014-12-02 Thread Philip Hands
mehow it will magically do itself. It does not strike me as obvious that popularity correlates to competence. Also, it would not be helpful if members of the committee were tempted to take the popular side of an argument, against their better judgement, because they were coming to the end of their ter

Re: Can I still depend on Debian?

2014-11-17 Thread Philip Hands
will also be plenty of time to change direction, if that were to be necessary. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg,GERMANY pgpvdIZ37xw5l.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Being part of a community and behaving

2014-11-13 Thread Philip Hands
dependency, nor to > overrun distro mailing lists with advocacy messages. Has anyone seen the Bursar's dried frog pills? He seems to be having another of his turns. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/http://ftp.uk.debian.org

Re: Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

2014-10-06 Thread Philip Hands
ve submitted any expenses to Debian, but if I needed to I'd be quite likely to miss a 3 month deadline because my paperwork tends to follow a quarterly cycle driven by UK VAT submissions, and I could easily imagine being too busy to do the Debian paperwork at the first chance, which could mean

Re: CoC / procedural abuse

2014-09-08 Thread Philip Hands
ut that particular segment of Debian. Any other arangement would be so cumbersome as to ensure that the people doing the work would soon give up in frustration and then nobody would be doing that work. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.h

Re: Maximum term for tech ctte members

2014-05-27 Thread Philip Hands
ssion could be a decision for the committee, or perhaps the chair, but that might well just end up being another thing to argue about if the issue is already contentious. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560]http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd.http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND pgprmqL4HgOwG.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: a SIP or XMPP service for debian.org

2013-12-22 Thread Philip Hands
ink we should aim for is the ability to offer sub-accounts, so that our users can offer their friends and relatives VoIP accounts, so that DDs (etc.) get to do video conferencing with their relatives using Free Software, rather than being forced to use facetime/skype or nothing. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560]http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd.http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND pgpE6wf9JKIeO.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Xfce by default

2013-11-05 Thread Philip Hands
bout new installations, you can just select the desktop you prefer at install time (OK, that option is hidden behind the Advanced menu, but it is there -- for Jessie, especially if we change default, I'm sure it will be more obvious). A change of defaults is mostly about what fits on CD#1 --

Re: Should mailing list bans be published?

2013-10-28 Thread Philip Hands
sent after that announcement -- it would not be fair to spring this on a troll for sins committed before the announcement. Cheers, Phil. P.S. in case it's not obvious, I fully support publication, as long as we can do it without putting a blight on the futures of people that mi

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2013-10-14 Thread Philip Hands
to express your plans again to get the discussion closer to what you think you were suggesting. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560]http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd.http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, Lon

Re: KickStarter for Debian packages - crowdfunding/donations for development

2013-06-16 Thread Philip Hands
oftware is nonsense. See IBM, HP, Canonical, my customers, anyone that's ever said to a DD (or anyone else for that matter): "I'll buy you a beer if you help me package this..." Where payments to work on Debian make sense, removing friction is a good thing for all involv

Re: New Debian kilts

2012-09-30 Thread Philip Hands
h. Anyway, last I heard they had stock (we ordered 80 yards, but for reasons known only to the weavers they wove 160 yards. I was under the impression that there was still quite a lot of the extra left over). I'll ask them what the current situation is, if that helps. Cheers, Phil. -- |)|

Re: Presentation of iso downloads - simpler like Fedora?

2012-08-13 Thread Philip Hands
ackage could be created, thus giving the Debian Live people a package to use for their CD images, and somewhere to report a bug when the resulting image creeps beyond the size of a CD. I can report this as a bug if that helps, but it seems to me that the debian-live folk need to have a chat with

Re: trademark policy draft

2012-08-06 Thread Philip Hands
enforcing trademarks thus far, so perhaps it really is not the only way. That said, those granted the right to play with the trademark can presumably do so. We just need to grant that permission in the cases you seem concerned about. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560]http://

Re: trademark policy draft

2012-08-02 Thread Philip Hands
s a sub-domain of the normally registered uk.com. On the other hand, the sorts of people that are liable to be confused by Debian trademark abuse, are also going to be confused by the distinction between .uk.com and .co.uk Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560]http://www.

Re: Diversity statement for the Debian Project

2012-04-12 Thread Philip Hands
ves will perceive it differently. If it is deemed that the clarification is needed, then adding 'too' is not the way to do it -- instead we could go for: adding 'also' after 'we': ... technical in nature, we also value and encourage contributi

Re: Diversity statement for the Debian Project

2012-04-06 Thread Philip Hands
ntributions or the people making them? Probably both, but I think that unanswered question may be why I'm not able to come up with a better version of this, as well as the reason it doesn't seem quite right to me at present. If the answer to that is meant to be the people, then th

Re: Diversity statement for the Debian Project

2012-04-02 Thread Philip Hands
ly tells you more about my class prejudices than anything else ;-) Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560]http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd.http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND pgpP2uQuxCLzv.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Diversity statement for the Debian Project

2012-04-01 Thread Philip Hands
an/2003/mar/17/features11.g2 The concept of race only seems to be useful to racists, and perhaps bean-counters who want to demonstrate their organisation's lack of racism by the racial diversity that they can get people to admit to on forms. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20

Re: Diversity statement for the Debian Project

2012-03-29 Thread Philip Hands
ould we not make explicit the fact that we are willing to discuss the colour of all sheds, even those used for the storage of pots? Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560]http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd.http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND pgpr7q0IQm36B.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: revenue sharing agreement with DuckDuckGo

2012-03-28 Thread Philip Hands
yes or no. It also might be better to make that less search specific. We could also have a debconf question for setting the default search engine across all browsers, which defaults to unset, and is low priority, so that people can preseed it, but the browser packagers get to make their own de

Re: revenue sharing agreement with DuckDuckGo

2012-03-28 Thread Philip Hands
;. No, I meant that they might be upset by being dropped from being the _default_ in favour of DDG -- never mind, I really doubt they care much. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560]http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd.http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(|

Re: revenue sharing agreement with DuckDuckGo

2012-03-27 Thread Philip Hands
profit share? ;-) Cheers. Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560]http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd.http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND pgpZMTihcnHfG.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: OSI affiliation

2012-02-21 Thread Philip Hands
that adding another voice to the committee that's failing to make a useful decision will suddenly precipitate one. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560]http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd.http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South

Re: OSI affiliation

2012-02-18 Thread Philip Hands
such certifications as flawed, and revoking them. If they've not already done so, they could also have a "Open Source, but we'd rather you didn't use this drivel" category, with a recommended equivalent license that is a better choice if you were thinking of using t

Re: OSI affiliation

2012-02-16 Thread Philip Hands
e publish modifications, which I think is the sort of thing that fails our desert island test, and I'm not aware of any free software licenses that insist that -- they're presumably misreading the GPL). -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560]http://www.hands.com/

Re: Installation & Live CD

2012-01-17 Thread Philip Hands
, and linking to it prominently without an arcane sub-directory tree to navigate, as suggested by the OP. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560]http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd.http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND pgpTihST7b453.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: 1 year release good enough.

2012-01-03 Thread Philip Hands
ties of the live-fast die-young corporations. Admittedly, Microsoft are now trying to use the patent system as fungicide, but I think the wider population are waking up to just how toxic that stuff is for everyone, especially when misused. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 853

Re: Debian hardware certification

2011-07-08 Thread Philip Hands
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 09:17:09 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: Non-text part: multipart/signed > On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 12:48:17PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > > > > That's the kind of very simple list that I was hoping to build. But the > > > > list isn'

Re: Debian hardware certification

2011-07-05 Thread Philip Hands
say). Then there would need to be a way of updating the maintainer address(es) -- probably best if a DD/DM takes responsibility for being our contact with that company, and handles that in the normal manner. We could always set up a manufacturer-liason team for that, if appropriate

Re: audible compatibility with linux

2011-04-13 Thread Philip Hands
n not care very much what they do either. You might want to look at http://librivox.org/ (I've not tried this myself, but just found it by searching for "creative commons audio books") Cheers, Phil. [1] I find it amusing that the content owners are clueless enough to provide the conten

Re: DEP5: Extra fields without ‘X-’ prefix?

2010-11-22 Thread Philip Hands
ki page can act as something like a lock. Not that I think there's anything wrong with what you already have, so go with whatever you prefer. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560]http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd.http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND pgpUykIA3VsUX.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: commercial spam on planet

2010-11-09 Thread Philip Hands
g the planet disarm all links that point elsewhere than the same domain as the blog post that contains it? Perhaps a little too draconian? Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560]http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd.http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(|

Re: DEP-5: general file syntax

2010-08-18 Thread Philip Hands
uld just add two spaces by default, and if anyone can be bothered, paragraphs that would be fine word-wrapped could then be back-indented one space by hand. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560]http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd.http://www.uk.de

making more Debian Tartan -- deadline early April

2010-03-25 Thread Philip Hands
ice as it gets cheaper the more cloth we make, and more expensive the more optional bits you add) Women's skirts are significantly cheaper -- If you fancy some trousers like Wouter's you'll need to talk to his Mum about getting them made ;-) -- |)| Philip Hands [+44

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-02 Thread Philip Hands
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 01:48:29AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 11403 March 1977, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > So tagging a key as belonging to a particular host is insufficient - we need > > the full authorized_keys semantics for setting key options (from=, command=, > > no-port-forwarding, no

Re: Misc development news (#8)

2008-06-01 Thread Philip Hands
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 09:15:19AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: > On Sat, 31 May 2008, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > People submitting known bad keys to ldap and stuffing those in their > > > authorized_keys files also. What else did you think it meant? > > > > I have no idea, because I don't u

Re: DEP1: Clarifying policies and workflows for Non Maintainer?Uploads (NMUs)

2008-05-31 Thread Philip Hands
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 05:17:57PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > On Friday 30 May 2008, Bas Wijnen wrote: > > But in the situation you mention above, I don't think there's anything > > wrong with actually preparing an NMU (except that you may be wasting > > time, but that's your own problem).  So no re

Debian Tartan: Last call before we weave

2007-03-21 Thread Philip Hands
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Folks, Sorry if you're fed up with this already, but I'd rather bore a few people than have someone miss out, since a) we have a deadline to meet for DebConf7, and b) there's a 300.00 GBP weaving set-up fee that people will have to pay if they were

Re: Debian Tartan for Debconf7 ... pricing update :-(

2007-03-14 Thread Philip Hands
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It seems that I got the pricing wrong, since I was looking at the standard off-the-shelf prices, and specially woven cloth costs a bit more than that. For more details, check the blog: http://blog.hands.com/debian/debconf/tartan where I will track

Re: Debian Tartan for Debconf7 ... progress

2007-03-13 Thread Philip Hands
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve McIntyre wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 11:23:46PM +0000, Philip Hands wrote: >> So, if you're thinking that you might be interested in having one of these, >> you need to check your bank balance, and get back to

Re: Debian Tartan for Debconf7 ... progress

2007-02-28 Thread Philip Hands
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philip Hands wrote: [...] > My initial attempt at a design (which I'm told by the designer needs to > change because I used odd thread counts, and they need to be even) is here: > > http://hands.com/~phil/debconf/debian-tartan1.png

Debian Tartan for Debconf7

2007-02-23 Thread Philip Hands
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Folks, I'm currently in discussion with a tartan designer to come up with a design for a Debian Tartan in time for kilts to be made for people that would like them for Debconf7 The timing is going to be tight, in that we need to get the beginning

Re: Debian on one dvd?

2005-12-15 Thread Philip Hands
Siward de Groot wrote: [...] >>The FSF diagrees. See below. > > They can disagree all they want, > but as long as they don't write it in the license, we are not bound by it. > Or do you know of any prior ruling or general consensus among lawyers >about this ? So you think you'll convince a

Re: Automated testing - design and interfaces

2005-11-24 Thread Philip Hands
Ian Jackson wrote: > The scheme I'm proposing is useful to Debian even if the buildds don't > get enhanced to run the tests automatically, because package > maintainer tools can easily be enhanced to do that. Of course Ubuntu > will do that testing automatically but Ubuntu apparently has (will > h

Re: Retailing

2005-11-13 Thread Philip Hands
Joe Smith wrote: > Kieran Lloyd" wrote: > >> I am considering selling some home made PC's on Ebay, the thing is I >> want to sell these pre-installed with Debian Linux. >> Would Debian have any argument with this? I will obviously be >> advertising that the Pc's have Debian installed however I >>

Re: DCC (Debian Confusion Core) trademark negotiation status

2005-10-23 Thread Philip Hands
Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 05:01:06PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > >>Bart Schuller writes ("Re: DCC (Debian Confusion Core) trademark negotiation >>status"): >> >>>http://ianmurdock.com/?p=274 >> >>This is some kind of insulting joke. > > Glad I'm not the only one that thinks

Re: Developing on Debian

2005-10-14 Thread Philip Hands
Jason Mock wrote: > Philip, > > Thank you again for your timely response. On the security question, what we > are looking for is the built in security within the system. Does debian have > a built in firewall, Antivirus, or any other security features that help > create a secure work environmen

Re: Developing on Debian

2005-10-14 Thread Philip Hands
Jason Mock wrote: > Hello, > > I have a few more questions that were pushed my direction from our Board > of Directors. Before the questions though I would like to thank you for > the fast response to my inquiry! It will make you proud to know that > you were the first response to the questions

Re: Developing on Debian

2005-10-13 Thread Philip Hands
ng because our corporate policy changed, or marketing thinks some new thing sounds better. You will have to do a little more work initially though, or pay a Debian consultant to guide you, but since you were expecting to pay anyway, why not pay for lessons in fishing, rather than a few kilos of fish? Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560]http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd.http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

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