Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the CoC

2019-12-23 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Dec 20 2019, Martina Ferrari wrote: > Do people actually care about making Debian a welcoming place for > minorities? Then speak up, take risks, or stop pretending you > care. And I don't mean sending requests to listmaster, I mean putting > your body and privilege in the front line. Even thou

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

2019-07-04 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Jul 03 2019, Adrian Bunk wrote: > In this gay pride month discussion what is politically correct for > people in the US is considered offensive by people in Germany, and > what would be considered politically correct by Germans would be > considered offensive by people in the US. I would pre

Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests

2017-05-12 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On May 11 2017, Russ Allbery wrote: > Nikolaus Rath writes: >> On May 10 2017, Russ Allbery wrote: > >>> and no conclusions should ever be drawn from it? > >> I don't think anyone has said that. > > Quoting from the originally proposed wiki page: > &g

Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests

2017-05-11 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On May 10 2017, Russ Allbery wrote: > "Dr. Bas Wijnen" writes: >> On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 11:51:23PM +, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >>> I think it's a horrible idea. One of the major draws of Debian is that >>> we are all here for our own reasons. I don't judge your motivations >>> and you don

Re: What do you expect from the DPL?

2015-02-16 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Feb 16 2015, Ian Jackson wrote: >> I haven't seen any followup from the tech ctte on some of the disucssion from >> Dec about improving the way the ctte approaches requests, cf >> >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/12/msg00050.html >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/12/ms

Re: Why are in-person meetings required for the debian keyring?

2015-02-12 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Christian Kastner writes: > On 2015-02-12 21:11, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Christian Kastner writes: >> >>> And I maintain that those people cannot be trusted with unrestricted >>> upload rights to the archive. That person-noone-has-ever-met but >>> occasionally-prepares-and-uploads-packages could

Re: Why are in-person meetings required for the debian keyring?

2015-02-12 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Nikolaus Rath writes: > I think that's a pretty weak argument. Even if you assume that a > theoretical perpetrator originally joined Debian with good intentions > (i.e., without using a faked id in the first place), and that you are > actually able to sue in the relevant country,

Re: Why are in-person meetings required for the debian keyring?

2015-02-12 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Christian Kastner writes: > On 2015-02-12 18:20, Nikolaus Rath wrote: >> Christian Kastner writes: > On 2015-02-11 20:17, Nikolaus Rath wrote: >>>>> In other words: just because I'm sure about someone's >>>>> legal name, I wouldn't trust

Re: Why are in-person meetings required for the debian keyring?

2015-02-12 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Steve Langasek writes: > On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:17:44AM -0800, Nikolaus Rath wrote: >> I'm a little confused about the need to meet in-person to get a >> signature that's acceptable for the Debian keyring. > >> I believe that Debian packages are signed on

Re: Why are in-person meetings required for the debian keyring?

2015-02-12 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Christian Kastner writes: > On 2015-02-11 20:17, Nikolaus Rath wrote: >> In other words: just because I'm sure about someone's >> legal name, I wouldn't trust him to run code on my computer. But if >> someone has been contributing to Debian for 5 years with

Re: Why are in-person meetings required for the debian keyring?

2015-02-12 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Sam Hartman writes: >>>>>> "Nikolaus" == Nikolaus Rath writes: > Nikolaus> However, it seems to me that meeting someone in person > Nikolaus> isn't actually verifying the relevant identity here. My > Nikolaus> trust in a Debian dev

Re: Why are in-person meetings required for the debian keyring?

2015-02-12 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Russell Stuart writes: > On Thu, 2015-02-12 at 07:15 +, Philip Hands wrote: >> You've managed to spectacularly miss my point. >> >> If one insists on face-to-face meetings, there is a moderate chance that >> someone is going to notice that the same person is attempting to create >> a new pers

Why are in-person meetings required for the debian keyring?

2015-02-11 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Hello, I'm a little confused about the need to meet in-person to get a signature that's acceptable for the Debian keyring. I believe that Debian packages are signed on upload to ensure that they have been prepared by a Debian Developer, because Debian Developers are assumed to be trustworthy. Ho

Re: clarify FTP master delegation?

2014-03-12 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Daniel Pocock writes: > On 11/03/14 20:47, Neil McGovern wrote: >> On 11 Mar 2014, at 18:20, Daniel Pocock wrote: >>> There is some ongoing discussion (on debian-legal) about whether the FTP >>> masters will accept a particular package >> For those who weren’t around 10 years ago, I would suggest

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-03-02 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Andreas Barth writes: > * Paul Tagliamonte (paul...@debian.org) [140302 19:02]: >> On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 05:55:14PM +, Colin Watson wrote: >> > Huh? Ian explicitly says, as does the text itself, that this proposed >> > GR *adopts* the TC decision on the default init system. It doesn't >> >

Re: GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian

2014-01-27 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Russ Allbery writes: > "Didier 'OdyX' Raboud" writes: >> Le dimanche, 19 janvier 2014, 12.39:01 Ian Jackson a écrit : > >>> I agree. I think that would be quite bad. We could explicitly state >>> in our TC resolution that the TC decision can be vacated by General >>> Resolution on a simple majo

Re: Code of Conduct: picking up

2013-11-28 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Norbert Preining writes: > On Do, 28 Nov 2013, Brian Gupta wrote: >> but I'll leave you with a quote from one of my favorite authors, which >> may help put things in perspective.: > [...] >> Which made me oddly happy. I started imagining a world in which we >> replaced the phrase “politica

Re: Possibly moving Debian services to a CDN

2013-10-14 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Tollef Fog Heen writes: >> 1) Privacy concerns: Debian would deliver much more data to business >> companies than necessary. Keep in mind that personalized data is one >> of the most valuable things to data miners. Currently I choose one >> mirror site to pull my packages from. I can freely choose

Re: Proposal #3: Upstream/Debian Project donations

2013-06-19 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Venture Communism writes: > So let's get this straight. > > Step 1) Ask APT people if it belongs in APT > > Get told to go to debian-project list > > Step 2) Ask debian-project list if can put in APT > > Get told doesn't belong in APT > > Step 3) Fix proposal so it's not in APT, goes upstream as a

Re: PaySwarm-based Debian donations

2013-06-18 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Russ Allbery writes: > Some of us (myself definitely included) are involved in free software > precisely *because* we're strongly anti-capitalist, anti-marketing, and > firmly opposed to the economic structures that dominate so much of the > rest of life. If your plea is for distributions to act

Re: KickStarter for Debian packages - crowdfunding/donations for development

2013-06-14 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Paul Wise writes: > I am very concerned about motivations of Debian project volunteers > being distorted by money so I would suggest only allowing donations to > Debian as a whole or directly to individual upstream projects. I agree. It would add a whole new dimension to NMU'ing, orphaning, adopt

Re: Dealing with ITS abuse

2013-04-15 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Don Armstrong writes: >> I'm /not/ asking to know who got a "penalty flag" (I don't need to >> know) -- but I and others /do/ have a need to know if those exist >> and what they are. The only reason I've been looking at past events >> was to /infer/ what penalties exist due to a lack of informatio

Re: [all candidates] Removing or limiting DD rights?

2013-04-03 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Ian Jackson writes: >> From the point of view of the bug reporter, the message the DD has >> sent (whether intended or not) is "I'm not even going to dignify >> this with a response. *click* " It's not /only/ this rudeness >> that's the problem, though; the bug reporter has now been handed a >> p