Re: Linux System Engineer (100%) in Zurich

2008-11-26 Thread Michael Poole
executed satire -- something which was also claimed to be discriminatory. Michael Poole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Range Voting - the simpler better alternative to Condorcet voting

2007-06-15 Thread Michael Poole
ompetitor 0.0 and another 10.0 in one event? The "How range voting works" section makes no mention of it, either. I really should know better by now, but I am still surprised when Range Voting advocates throw out such bogus claims. Michael Poole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Range Voting - the simpler better alternative to Condorcet voting

2007-06-15 Thread Michael Poole
ample above, if the most preferred candidate is given 99 points and the least preferred three candidates all get 0, the outcome is still quite susceptible to strategic scoring of the second place candidate. Michael Poole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Response to "Position Statement to the Dunc-Tanc "experiment""

2006-10-27 Thread Michael Poole
ces were known in advance, no experiment would be necessary or appropriate. However, no one has shown or plausibly can show a provably ideal way to expend these resources.) Michael Poole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Recompilation of ALL Debian packages ...

2006-09-02 Thread Michael Poole
uditing a source code package is reasonably well-understood. For binary packages, it is not, but it is clear that it is much more labor-intensive. Michael Poole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Proposal: The DFSG do not require source code for data, including firmware

2006-08-28 Thread Michael Poole
the project, are not necessarily so clear-cut about requiring a 3:1 supermajority. Michael Poole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Issues regarding powerpc and Sven

2006-05-16 Thread Michael Poole
ish that they would stop -- and given the context ("more than what anyone could reasonably expect you to"), I find it hard to read the "normal people" line above as an insult. Michael Poole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-02 Thread Michael Poole
OIS, and related messages provide adequate presence notification. Michael Poole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Retailing

2005-11-13 Thread Michael Poole
;GNU/Solaris" CDDL-licensed standard library case? Has it simply gone unnoticed by those who campaign so hard to kill competition? Michael Poole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Pledge To Killfile Andrew Suffield

2005-08-12 Thread Michael Poole
Anibal Monsalve Salazar writes: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 04:32:52PM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: >>Andrew Suffield writes: >>>On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 11:09:16PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: >>>>My response is simply this: it's lies. I challenge anybody

Re: Pledge To Killfile Andrew Suffield

2005-08-12 Thread Michael Poole
om the start. The real reason I gave up is that it is clear that neither of us is convincing the other. Descending to your flawed level of rhetoric, it is also telling that nobody else has stepped up to argue that your posts were acceptable. Michael Poole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAI

Re: Pledge To Killfile a person

2005-08-12 Thread Michael Poole
will be less hassle to killfile you rather than try to reform you to minimal sociability. Michael Poole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Pledge To Killfile a person

2005-08-11 Thread Michael Poole
MJ Ray writes: > Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] >> How else should I consider a mail that simply declares "Troll."? Do >> you think it is not rude? Or was the point of the brevity something >> besides saving yourself the effort of justifying

Re: Pledge To Killfile a person

2005-08-11 Thread Michael Poole
Andrew Suffield writes: > On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 09:50:12AM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: >> Sigh. I wasn't aware that common courtesy was so rare as to require >> explanation at length. > > When you start making accusations, you are obliged to back them up > with ex

Re: Pledge To Killfile a person

2005-08-11 Thread Michael Poole
Sigh. I wasn't aware that common courtesy was so rare as to require explanation at length. Andrew Suffield writes: > On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 11:08:05AM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: >> Andrew Suffield writes: >> >> > My response is simply this: it's li

Re: Pledge To Killfile a person

2005-08-10 Thread Michael Poole
time. Even though I personally tend to ignore Andrew Suffield, I think an organized effort to killfile _anyone_ is a misguided application of social pressure. If the alleged misbehavior is not so systematic that everyone can see it, it is not bad enough to warrant ostracism. Michael Poole -- To

Re: Poll results: User views on the FDL issue

2005-04-20 Thread Michael Poole
Adam McKenna writes: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 08:03:48AM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: >> Proprietary licenses protect the authors' rights even more. Never >> publishing the work, and therefore never subjecting it to copyright >> law, also protects the authors'

Re: Poll results: User views on the FDL issue

2005-04-20 Thread Michael Poole
Marty writes: > Michael Poole wrote: >> Marty writes: >> >>> Invariant sections are perfect example of a restriction that enhances >>> the rights of the author (copyright holder) at the expense of the end >>> user, but does so in a way that promote

Re: Poll results: User views on the FDL issue

2005-04-19 Thread Michael Poole
be limited in how they can use or distribute the work, simply because the author injected a diatribe that does not pertain to the main body of the work[1]. It is rather short-sighted to encourage a significant limitation in freedom because no author has yet abused that limitation. Michael

Re: non-free but distributable packages and kernel firmware

2005-04-06 Thread Michael Poole
ria above others in importance. If you want this kind of distinction, I think a less discriminatory way would be to flag (internally or on a central web site somewhere) each package in non-free according to which parts of DFSG it fails. Michael Poole -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Why does Debian distributed firmware not need to be Depends: upon? [was Re: LCC and blobs]

2005-01-09 Thread Michael Poole
data (or does anything useful with it) is a question for the hardware designer, not for the OS. Michael Poole

Re: documentation x executable code

2005-01-06 Thread Michael Poole
n be. An invariant section is an integral part of the documentation; by the GFDL's definition, it is otherwise irrelevant content. The license is legally required metadata: The copyright owner provides a particular license to users, and those users must know exactly what that license is. No redistributor may alter that license's text and pass it off as applying to the original software. Michael Poole

Re: Theo de Raadt On Firmware Activism

2004-11-03 Thread Michael Poole
e to the device; some argue that the drivers must go into contrib on the basis that the device is not functional without the firmware, and the driver is not functional without the device. Michael Poole

Re: Patent clauses in licenses

2004-09-24 Thread Michael Poole
se. I disagree with that because that interpretation opens a significant loophole in the GPL's protection and because getting a new license would not remedy previous instances of copyright infringement. Michael Poole

Re: Patent clauses in licenses

2004-09-24 Thread Michael Poole
MJ Ray writes: > On 2004-09-24 15:49:12 +0100 Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [...] patents covering programs is not a problem > > specific to the USA. [...] > > Indeed, but that's neither global nor natural. The post I first > replied to see

Re: Patent clauses in licenses

2004-09-24 Thread Michael Poole
MJ Ray writes: > On 2004-09-24 14:23:34 +0100 Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Your (claimed) law is not everyone's law. It's silly to ignore the > > case of the US [...] > > Similarly, it's silly to assert that US law is everyone

Re: Patent clauses in licenses

2004-09-24 Thread Michael Poole
MJ Ray writes: > On 2004-09-24 13:37:42 +0100 Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Computer programs, by their nature, combine both copyrightable and > > patentable elements. > > Mathematical relationships are discoveries, not inventions. Similarly >

Re: Patent clauses in licenses

2004-09-24 Thread Michael Poole
> > while at the same time alleging that it violates your patents > > You can't combine things of different type like that. Computer programs, by their nature, combine both copyrightable and patentable elements. Neither Glenn nor patent lawsuit termination clauses were the first to combine them. Michael Poole

Re: Patent clauses in licenses

2004-09-22 Thread Michael Poole
from gun abuse and nuclear technology abuse? No one has tried. We have so far considered terms of software that people want to include in Debian (including how to fix non-free licenses), so I do not see good reason to debate what would make such clauses free. Michael Poole

Re: Patent clauses in licenses

2004-09-20 Thread Michael Poole
ave done had she not received > the program. We have to keep this distinction in mind, I think. None of the patent clauses prevent people from doing things they could have done had they not received the program, since none of them try to enforce a waiver on the licensee. Michael Poole

Re: Patent clauses in licenses

2004-09-19 Thread Michael Poole
John Hasler writes: > Michael Poole writes: > > Company B's "defensive" claims also affect all other users of the > > original software -- now that they attempt to enforce their patent > > rights, no other users can assume themselves to be safe. > > Why

Re: Patent clauses in licenses

2004-09-19 Thread Michael Poole
restrictions are non-free. You will always be able to find ways to > abuse them to gain arbitrary degrees of control over the software. One could claim that allowing others to access a program over the network includes sufficient transfer of copyrighted material to trigger section 3 of the GPL. Debian has rejected explicit "external deployment" clauses in the past, but accepts the GPL despite this possibility. I just pulled that one out of the air. There are countless more like it. Making up corner cases is not particularly useful. Michael Poole

Re: Patent clauses in licenses

2004-09-14 Thread Michael Poole
incompatible with the GPL. And on Apache Software License 2.0: We don't think those patent termination cases are inherently a bad idea, but nonetheless they are incompatible with the GNU GPL. Michael Poole

Re: On the uselessness of Debian trademarks.

2004-05-09 Thread Michael Poole
Nathanael Nerode writes: > MJ Ray wrote: > >> On 2004-05-07 14:20:37 +0100 Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Uh, or they use the Debian trademark for something that's not Debian >>> at >>> all.. That's not necessairly claiming it as backing or endorsement >>> from >>> Debian. >> >

Re: On the uselessness of Debian trademarks.

2004-05-07 Thread Michael Poole
doubt it -- selling shirts would be a commercial purpose outside "identifying goods or services as those of the proprietor or a licensee." I do not think it would even be safe to sell shirts that say "Buy your Coke at Joe's Convenience Mart." Since you see income from selling the shirts, it could be argued as using the mark in commerce. Michael Poole

Re: Some Comments on Sexism in #debian

2004-03-08 Thread Michael Poole
-productive ways, could they please do it off-list? When "bullying" (to borrow the term used earlier in a related thread) moves from technical issues to personal attacks, it merely escalates problems. It only resolves the issues by driving people away, and that does not generally help the long term. Michael Poole