uot; I mean actually writing code and
not just talking about it or bothering the current developers, who seem to
have their hands full already just trying to do the hard work to bring
these drivers to fruition.
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o it should be
> given in the document, and maybe suggest, in the History section,
> an URL of the changelog view of the file. How does that sound?
Would it be possible to add an RSS feed to the DEP with diffs or the
changelog? It'd be nice to be able to track these from a distan
uild-deps get very long and it's
> not a place where you can use substvars. :-/
It might be easier if we expanded the build-dep field a bit. There could be
a build-dep-common, build-dep-unstable, build-dep-stable, etc. That would
make it a lot more manageable.
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tion out there[1] in the etch timeframe.
Vaughan-Nichols is a troll, pure and simple, and we have vastly more
positive things to do for ourselves, for our users, and for the community
at large than listen to his puffed up sense of entitlement.
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On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 09:56:52AM -0400, David Nusinow wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 08:19:03AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
> > Yo!
> >
> > http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS5673962628.html
> >
> > Merely somebody who likes Fedora and (Open)SuSE better
etch, and we can do more
for lenny. I know I've got my plans for the X stuff, and from the TeX and
Postgres announcements on -devel-announce, it's clear that others also have
big plans. None of the stuff I've got in mind will resolve this problem,
but I'm open to suggestions.
-
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 10:52:15PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
> David Nusinow wrote:
> >> The rough plan is to provide an alternative set of updated kernel packages
> >> and potentially also xservers (depending on how modular the new X.org
> >> modulization rea
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 10:11:06PM +, David Nusinow wrote:
> libs or protocol headers though. The 7.1 server only requires an update of
> one lib and two protocol headers from 7.0. I'd imagine that this will be
^^^
Sorry, two libs, although one is mesa.
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xperience,
but the ABI did break between 7.0 and 7.1.
The server should work fine without too many additional backports of the
libs or protocol headers though. The 7.1 server only requires an update of
one lib and two protocol headers from 7.0. I'd imagine that this will be
more or less th
ple in #debian had been complaining about this bug, yet no
one had submitted it.
On the other hand, I got a zillion duplicate bugs about things like manpage
sections.
If people can't report trivial bugs that need to be fixed, then it makes it
hard for us to do what we need to do. I'm not so
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 07:55:05PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
< snip lots of stupid crap >
Can you please stop diverting a potentially useful thread in to the realm
of moronic advocacy? kthxbi
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On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 08:24:55AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, David Nusinow wrote:
> > system of governance take over." Fundamentally, this could have happened at
> > any time with any of the problematic discussions of the past, but it didn't
semi-official responsibility would facilitate
overcoming the inertia the project has faced in the past? Would you be
willing to take on this responsibility as DPL?
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answers to my questions. I think linuxnewbie.org was the best one around at
the time (this was the late 90's).
Now I'm a proud Debian Developer. Maybe my story isn't and won't be unique.
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with a s
tle tribe) and I
look forward to more of the same. Maybe the next time you start trying to
do some real work for Debian rather than troll -project you'll find this
out for yourself.
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here too. It might not be official, but at least it's got some DD presence
currently and it could certainly use more. Fortunately, it's still small
enough that it doesn't have to deal with the problems of scale, so I don't
know if it'll end up any better than the ubuntu forums
he majority of the
project is absurd. Andrew has pissed off a lot of his fellow developers at
many points for many years on issues both technical and social. So please
stop trying to paint this as a witch hunt. We've got enough real issues[0]
to worry about.
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care about a topic please don't waste all of our time
while you browbeat your opposition (and in this case, fellow Debian
developer) in to the ground. Some of us who do care might want to see
something positive come out of this long and painful thread.
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that most of the famed integration
going on in Ubuntu is the result of the eye-catching theme, the choice of a
single default desktop, and good marketing. I had hoped to install Ubuntu
on one of my systems to see for myself, but unfortunately the installer
failed so I have had to make do with t
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 01:59:05PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.12.11.0539 +0100]:
> > Martin, I'd like for you to come in to #debian. Not for an hour or
> > a few hours, but for a few weeks to see what it's
r X log file
is and those who want to know how to write a patch for the X packages. If
you really have our users as your focus, you'll put in the same kind of
effort.
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easily be
> improved.
Rather than invent a whole new test harness then, how about integrating the
functionality you want in to piuparts?
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On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 07:09:09PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> I've no grudge against David Nusinow, but rather than
> using this expression being parroted around debian,
> aimed at various different people, maybe you should take
> a really long, hard try at writing a more orig
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 06:14:51PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 10:19:32AM -0400, David Nusinow wrote:
> > You're a smart guy Andrew (definitely smarter than me)
>
> Now half a dozen people are going to claim I have a superiority
> complex, beca
ty" or the ravings of people who are out to get
you, you'll figure it out.
I, for one, hope that you do.
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> Those who are at DebConf and are interested: You are welcome to see me
> and discuss matters in person.
>
> Thanks for your attention, and looking forward to working with you,
Thank you so much for doing this! It's exactly what I've been attempting to
do with the X.Org package
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 12:45:25PM +0200, Benj. Mako Hill wrote:
> People like the pretty pictures, it's not difficult for us to do, and
> I don't see any reason why we shouldn't. :)
Surely, with the zillions of wikis and web photo galleries available in the
Debian archive, that some DD isn't will
multiple media formats?
Which freedoms do they require? Furthermore, why do they require different
freedoms?
> If you don't agree with their position feel free to shut up.
This defeats the purpose of a discussion.
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On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 03:48:33PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, David Nusinow wrote:
> > The problem with this is that adding a lot of features to the BTS
> > while it's in use for etch may not be the wisest move. The last
> > thing we need is hav
its are that
much of the logic is moved in to rails, making it incredibly
simple to add things like heirarchy and a relational DB
backend. I don't know which approach is better, and for now
I'm going to keep hacking on my codebase and see how it goes.
> Maybe these thoughts will lead
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 05:51:58PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-14 12:47]:
> > Perhaps you're right. I honestly hadn't considered an etch virtual
> > package. My goal has been to automate the process as much as
> &
ly difficult codebase to work with. Then again, if debbugs is
sufficient then there's no need for me to do duplicate work, which would be
nice.
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On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 05:25:36PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-14 12:20]:
> > > And I'd like to suggest the formalization and tracking of these
> > > milestones in the etch's release page at Debian site.
>
ot;it" means.
I've begun work on a tool to just that. If anyone is interested in helping
develop it, contact me and we can work on setting up an alioth project and such.
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You just seem uninformed. How much of that is Debian's fault is debateable. If
you really want to help with this issue, you could start to help fix our
documentation issues that I mentioned earlier. They could certaintly use a lot
of love, and it could be a way to help ot
more centralized documentation (much like how Gentoo
does it) but currently we don't have anyone who's stepped forward to do that
work.
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n enhance a web site, I thought I'd ask on
> -project to see what other people think.
At first glance I think this is a very bad idea, but I'd be willing to at least
hear what we'd stand to benefit from doing this. As far as I know, we don't
need the money, and could probably benefit more from their sponsorship in other
ways.
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--- Jonas Smedegaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A wildly interesting discussion is taking place at
> debian-project
> currently, with the subject "How to solve problem X
> least secretly".
>
> Come on everybody and show the world that you care
> about when our secret
> mailinglist is appropriat
ecent
> > description of his entry into Debian), and documentation which could be
> > clearer. Is that a good enough start?
>
> Not it is not. It is not about discrimination, it is about political
> correctness in documentation written in English.
This is a small part of what -women is trying to accomplish.
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vote reflects that
this opinion is shared amongst the majority of DD's. I think the idea of
questioning mozilla's license, among others, triggers the fear that we will
never release because of the constant wrangingling over freeness. The fact that
this sort of wrangling is done based on tests (Chinese Dissident, etc) which
few are aware of makes the situation worse.
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rate with these
people and have actual discussions, not beat them about the head and shoulders
with ideology that they probably don't understand. This is the sort of thing
that Matthew is reporting about, and it's also the reason for the recent
backlash against -legal from within Debian itself.
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r there having a difference of
> opinion about what we're talking about. It'd be a lot simpler if we both
> acknowledged each others point of view, and moved on, but no, we're all
> pig-headed twits who won't back down (myself not exempted).
It seems like we agree on a lot more things than either of us realized.
:-)
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respond to my actual
point. Are you in favor of double standards? Because that's what the
case appears to be for me.
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ople get kicked and banned for obvious trolling,
crapflooding, and racist remarks. We can and we do control what people
say or do, and we can do better.
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noj was talking about "free software coding, and CS overall" in
addition to Debian as a whole. The HOWTO you reference also deals with
the larger scope as an example. Do try and pay attention.
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s you are
> replying to.
You replied to Manoj's mail, which was in the context of the larger
discussion. In addition to that, the example you cite is in the HOWTO,
which is a document written by a number of women who all share this
opinion completely outside of the specifics of the Debian proeject. Your
advice goes both ways.
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necdote presented was grossly mischaracterised and not an example
> of what it claimed to be.
There are other anecdotes. See Manoj's mail with the log in it, or the
various logs at http://www.p12n.org/misc/sexism/. Compounded evidence
certaintly lends weight to a hypothesis.
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ve controls? I'd rather take what
information is out there (including my own observations, and observation
is the most critical aspect of data gathering) and use it.
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> > coding in general, and CS overall?
>
> Sunspots. It's at least as convincing.
Way to completely ignore the problem, as well as testimonials by those
involved. What a productive attitude.
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labs wherever I've been. I've
personally had the good fortune to be in labs that were either headed by
women or were very friendly to women, but that doesn't mean that I
haven't heard stories.
You can plug your ears and shout "It's not real!" all you want, but th
yone
is interested in setting this up, I think it'd be worthwhile. #debian
should still remain a part of the project.
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downloading knoppix. It's a quick way to try out
something that is very close to a Debian system with little fuss. It's a
liveCD, which means that you can just boot the computer with the CD in
the drive, and it will load a fully functional system. You'll be able to
find the iso's linked from www.knoppix.org.
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ld
> be best. I hope you support us.
You may also want to be aware of the Debian-Edu project, which has the goal
of making Debian more suitable for use in schools. Here is some information
on it that you may find interesting:
http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianEdu
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to file a Request for
Package (RFP) bug for the software you want included, in this case
ocrad. You can use the reportbug program to do this easily. For more
information, see http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/.
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On Mon, May 05, 2003 at 08:45:12AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
> David Nusinow wrote:
> > with the new package tags to make it. apt and aptitude/dselect/other
> > frontends still need to be patched to work with sublists of packages in
> > order to cut things out like web
On Mon, May 05, 2003 at 10:19:40AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Mon, May 05, 2003 at 02:17:57AM +0200, Felix Steiner wrote:
> > But in my opinion free software fails if it is only for geeks. Why not try
> > to coordinate development to make an easier installer? Why not bring to
> > people what
On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 03:21:38PM +0200, Erik Terpstra wrote:
> Sorry if this is off-topic on this list, I just subscribed to make the
> following suggestion: (please forward to the relevant list if off-topic)
>
> For some time I have been looking for Debian posters or coffee mugs to
> decorate
On Sun, Apr 06, 2003 at 10:17:15AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Because somebody packaged them.
>
> Do you accept any package? Fortunately not! You don't accept any for
> technical reasons (for example, in the Debian Weekly News issued February
> 18th, 2003, it was considered to remove a
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