Re: Debian and Non-Free Services

2019-09-15 Thread Bart Martens
On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 01:30:24PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > I'm trying to move a thread from -devel. > > Ian Jackson responded [1] to part of a consensus discussion on Git > recommendations. I had said that I think we recommend against the use > of non-free services like Github but do n

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-23 Thread Bart Martens
gt; > old key they have already signed, with no need to meet them in person. > > I'm open to that if and only if the new keys have proper transition > statements. I would never sign new keys based on transition statements. > And if the original signatures were *really* done >

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-23 Thread Bart Martens
ing web of trust based on the 1024 bit keys, but one should realize that it is already weakened, regardless of how we introduce 4096 bit keys. > What we need is a way to confirm that you're talking to the same person > you've met previously and confirm that that is his new key.

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-23 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 10:23:47AM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, > > Bart Martens: > > On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 07:57:43AM +, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > gw...@gwolf.org wrote: > > > > > > >So, what do you suggest? > > > Pers

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-23 Thread Bart Martens
e this would reduce the value of the new keys to the weakness of the 1024 bit keys. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://li

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-23 Thread Bart Martens
at do you suggest? DDs with strong keys can help the locked out DDs with key signing [1] and with temporarily sponsoring important/urgent packages uploads [2]. I'm hereby offering this help myself now. [1] : https://wiki.debian.org/Keysigning/Offers [2] : http://mentors.debian.net/intro-maint

Re: Should mailing list bans be published?

2013-10-27 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:46:07PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 05:27:25PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > Bart Martens wrote: > > > I suggest we keep things civil, with respect for the persons involved. > > > It's > > > really not

Re: Should mailing list bans be published?

2013-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:58:34PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Hi Bart, > > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 07:33:34PM +0000, Bart Martens wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:46:41AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > This led to a philosophical debate about whether bans shou

Re: Should mailing list bans be published?

2013-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 09:20:27PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 19:33 +0000, Bart Martens wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:46:41AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > This led to a philosophical debate about whether bans should be made > > &

Re: Should mailing list bans be published?

2013-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
that could reflect bad on Debian's reputation. Approaches I could support : - post the bans with reasons on debian-private - or maintain a list of bans with reasons in a text file on a Debian machine where DDs can read this info. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project

Re: Doing something about "should remain private forever" emails

2013-06-21 Thread Bart Martens
one to choose where they post their messages. There's sufficient social control encouraging people to use the better list. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130621181540.ga18...@master.debian.org

Re: Validity of DFSG #10

2013-01-06 Thread Bart Martens
aybe this part should be dealt with further on debian-legal. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130106174644.ga19...@master.debian.org

Re: Validity of DFSG #10

2013-01-05 Thread Bart Martens
rsions are included. > In my opinion DFSG #10 is not a guideline but a statement giving example > compared to other DFSG's I agree that DFSG #10 is just a list of examples, not really a "guideline" as the "G" in "DFSG". > so even I feel it is better to

Re: ditching the official use logo?

2012-10-13 Thread Bart Martens
best kind of correct. > > I second this (I am on the camp of "we need/should keep the restricted > logo"). I consider this an acceptable compromise. I second the patch (I was in the camp of "put the bottle logo in a museum".) As Henrique wrote, the patch is an acc

Re: ditching the official use logo?

2012-10-01 Thread Bart Martens
quot;former official logo" with a nice story about its history or so. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121001104009.gc3...@master.debian.org

Re: New Debian Maintainer Jose Parella

2007-11-17 Thread Bart Martens
ilar roles (...) These people will initially be: (...) The team will be known as the Debian Maintainer Keyring team. Changes to the team may be made by the DPL under the normal rules for delegations." So the GR text doesn't seem to require a public discussion nor a public announcement. Rega

RE: Linux for a school

2007-11-08 Thread Bart Martens
way to get Debian GNU/Linux is documented here: http://www.debian.org/distrib/ There are also vendors in South Africa listed: http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/#za Hope this helps, Bart Martens > > Regards, > > PNJ IT Solutions for Vaalpark High School. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: call for seconds - request for removal of DM registrations

2007-10-29 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 09:22 +0100, Bart Martens wrote: > Dear DD's, > > I think that Joerg was very reasonable with this message: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2007/10/msg00115.html > > The debate that followed doesn't seem to lead to a solution

Re: call for seconds - request for removal of DM registrations

2007-10-28 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 14:57 +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > Bart Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The "good reasons" for requesting the removal of inappropriate additions > > to the DM keyring are > > Why is it better to introduce more work for the DM Key

Re: Debian Maintainers

2007-10-28 Thread Bart Martens
t; beta. That would be more than I expect in short term. I think that it is OK to officially start using the DM keyring before all documentation and tools are ready. As long as granting upload rights to non-DD's is done following the rules of the voted GR. Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: call for seconds - request for removal of DM registrations

2007-10-28 Thread Bart Martens
all know that this is not about the work of the DM candidates. > and not in the DM keyring maintenance team. I'm not blaming the DM keyring maintenance team for having a different view on the liberties that come with being a member of the DM keyring maintenance team. Regards, Bart Marten

call for seconds - request for removal of DM registrations

2007-10-28 Thread Bart Martens
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Re: Debian Maintainers

2007-10-28 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 11:04 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 09:55:57AM +0200, Bart Martens wrote: > > I'm sure that the intentions are good, but Joerg has a point about these > > three DM's. Maybe it is better to replace these three DM registrations

Re: Debian Maintainers

2007-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
on that helps in any way, > thats why Im not doing it. Well, that's why I offered my help to joeyh. :) > > IMO the whole GR is just wrong, Hmm... let's not go into that. :) > but that doesnt mean we should ignore > whats written in it. Yes, the voted GR must be re

Re: Debian Maintainers

2007-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 09:55 +0200, Bart Martens wrote: > On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 22:38 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > The current 3 people in the DM keyring agreed to be beta testers of the > > process, and I don't anticipate us adding more people until everything is > > fu

Re: Debian Maintainers

2007-10-26 Thread Bart Martens
m_pubkey.asc I guess that it's not so difficult to find two other volunteering DD's. Right ? :) Regards, Bart Martens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: please

2007-06-06 Thread Bart Martens
On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 10:06 +0200, walter wrote: > I've > lost a lot of time and plastic trying to download your dvds, cds. All > corrupt. It seems you or somebody else don't want people know about your > distro. What were the problems you experienced ? Regards, Bart Ma

wrong list (Re: Install KDE Language Package Problam)

2007-04-30 Thread Bart Martens
sts for Debian users: http://lists.debian.org/users.html Other ways to find support: http://www.debian.org/support Regards, Bart Martens signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

stable / backports (Re: When Debian 4.1 will arrive... will anyone care?)

2007-04-19 Thread Bart Martens
On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 15:17 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > contrary to popular belief and self-delusion, 'stable+backports' is NO > LONGER STABLE. That is of course true. > the only 'advantage' to using 'stable+backports' over 'stable+some > packages from unstable or testing' is that you don't hav

updates in stable do happen

2007-04-10 Thread Bart Martens
. If you feel that some packages in stable need an update, then you are very welcome to suggest an update by following the procedure described here [2]. [1]: http://www.debian.org/ [2]: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/ch-pkgs.en.html#s-upload-stable Regards, Bart Martens

Re: ideas....

2007-04-07 Thread Bart Martens
Note that the Debian project is very volunteer-driven, and money is a sensitive subject. For now I prefer to stay out of flamewars about money in Debian, and focus on the interesting parts: the software. Regards, Bart Martens signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: what to concider during the election of the DPL

2007-03-19 Thread Bart Martens
On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 00:40 +, MJ Ray wrote: > the strongest > leader is someone who leads many other strong people to push in the > same direction, building consensus. Yes, absolutely. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Proposal: Handling of changelog bug closures in Debian derived distros

2006-11-14 Thread Bart Martens
with Ubuntu or other derivatives. But I think that joint efforts should make Debian better. If not then I wonder if Debian should do the efforts. > So I'd propose to extend the changelog format I have not yet studied your proposal, because I want to get some bugs fixed before etch releases. :) Regards, Bart Martens signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Non-DDs right to speak on mailing lists

2006-08-24 Thread Bart Martens
On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 10:38 +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 05:39:43PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > He didn't use the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. It was clear to me that > > he was speaking as a developer, not as the DPL. > > But he has repeatedly suggested when speaking as