Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-05-23 Thread Adam McKenna
nse is swift: there was a debian developer wrongfully arrested for running a TOR exit node. their key was revoked immediately. How was this incident detected? On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 12:07 PM lkcl wrote: > On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 7:59 PM Adam McKenna wrote: > > You are talking about a d

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-05-23 Thread Adam McKenna
keys are compromised and an attacker uploads a compromised package? Do we have ways of detecting these breaches or do we rely solely on user reports? On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 11:22 AM lkcl wrote: > On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 6:28 PM Adam McKenna wrote: > > > > > i believe the

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-05-23 Thread Adam McKenna
> i believe the answer is in the question. debian is based on distributed trust. i did the analysis (took 3 weeks): it is literally the only distro in the world with an inviolate chain of trust from a large keyring dating back 20 years that is itself GPG-signed as a package, with a package distrib

Re: Fundamental flaw in bug reporting system

2006-07-13 Thread Adam McKenna
On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 08:44:57PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > I don't think picking a package and comparing bug reports like for > like across two distributions is `anecdotal evidence'. Anecdotal > evidence is statements like `well I tried to submit a bug report and > was discouraged'. Yes, I st

Re: Fundamental flaw in bug reporting system

2006-07-11 Thread Adam McKenna
mely fashion 2. Bugs get fixed in a timely fashion The amount of noise in the system is really a secondary concern if it leads to bugs getting reported faster and fixed faster. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Fundamental flaw in bug reporting system

2006-07-11 Thread Adam McKenna
On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 11:30:33AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > The slight inaccessibility in the bug reporting facilies is an > appropriate part of our approach to improving bug report quality. I don't think this logically follows.. I don't see how "inaccessibility" of the BTS would necessarily r

Re: Call for a new DPL mediation ... This will be the only thread i will reply to in the next time about this issue.

2006-06-20 Thread Adam McKenna
of the team members are likely to quit, or have threatened to quit, if AJ (or a GR) restores Sven's commit access? --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Call for a new DPL mediation ... This will be the only thread i will reply to in the next time about this issue.

2006-06-20 Thread Adam McKenna
s final or not. If it's final, there shouldn't be any more discussion unless it is in the form of a GR. If it's still up for discussion, then Sven is right to continue advocating for his position. If it's not, then apparently Sven doesn't understand that, and he should

Re: Call for a new DPL mediation ... This will be the only thread i will reply to in the next time about this issue.

2006-06-20 Thread Adam McKenna
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 09:27:29AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 11:32:03PM -0500, Ean Schuessler wrote: > > Was his access suspended because he simply was not liked? > > AFAICS, from the installer team's point of view, he resigned from the > team, and the access was suspended

Re: Call for a new DPL mediation ... This will be the only thread i will reply to in the next time about this issue.

2006-06-20 Thread Adam McKenna
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 08:08:55AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > http://www.wolffelaar.nl/~jeroen/sven-revokes-js-svn-from-kernel Is that the incident for which he apologized profusely & publicly? --Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Cont

Re: Call for a new DPL mediation ... This will be the only thread i will reply to in the next time about this issue.

2006-06-19 Thread Adam McKenna
e may have not abused his d-i commit rights but > did abuse his d-k svn admin rights. How, specifically? --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Call for a new DPL mediation ... This will be the only thread i will reply to in the next time about this issue.

2006-06-19 Thread Adam McKenna
so my understanding of the situation, and I agree with the conclusion. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Shouldn't we have more ftp masters ?

2006-06-02 Thread Adam McKenna
xtremely cynical viewpoint that essentially excuses lying to get elected. If you can't go by the promises and statements made in someone's platform, then how can you judge their suitability as a candidate? --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Reforming the NM process

2006-04-25 Thread Adam McKenna
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 01:14:55PM +, Thaddeus H. Black wrote: > Yes, but was this Peter's point? There is already an inherent > unfairness in Debian's voting system when the vote of a relatively > modest contributor and less-than-one-year DD like me counts exactly as > much as each of the vot

Re: Honesty in Debian (was Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-14 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 03:54:23PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > No, like chosing ati over nvidia for graphic cards, or silicon image over > others for SATA cards. Wait a minute, did I miss a memo? ATI isn't the devil anymore? --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Pledge To Killfile Andrew Suffield

2005-08-15 Thread Adam McKenna
m reading your mails and commments on IRC. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Pledge To Killfile Andrew Suffield

2005-08-10 Thread Adam McKenna
known as 'feeding the troll'). This is what I see Mako's 'pledge' as addressing, and that's why I signed it. It's unfortunate that someone had to be singled out, but in this case I think it was well deserved. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: consultant entries that will be removed unless they "pong"

2005-07-18 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 09:32:41AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > As Marc Haber wrote, the length of list can be interpreted as > the strength of support, so I also have an interest in making > that list as long as possible, in order to increase the overall > market size, even if it makes debian seem bette

Re: consultant entries that will be removed unless they "pong"

2005-07-17 Thread Adam McKenna
On Sun, Jul 17, 2005 at 10:57:13AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > Why not? It made as much sense as claiming that merely being listed > on that page creates a conflict of interest. Not all interests are > in conflict or should disqualify one from a discussion. As someone listed on the page you have a vest

Re: consultant entries that will be removed unless they "pong"

2005-07-16 Thread Adam McKenna
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 09:30:46AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The point is that we shouldn't impose stupid restrictions that we have no > > chance in hell of enforcing anyway. [...] > > Even if consultants@ think they could

Re: consultant entries that will be removed unless they "pong"

2005-07-15 Thread Adam McKenna
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 03:23:12PM -0700, Michael K. Edwards wrote: > On 7/15/05, Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It seems like there is already someone with this authority, but whenever he > > tries to do his job, he gets harangued by people who don't approve

Re: consultant entries that will be removed unless they "pong"

2005-07-15 Thread Adam McKenna
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 02:07:34AM +0100, Rich Walker wrote: > I get your point, but Debian is putting *commercial business* their > way, and attaching to their business a notional imprint of Debian > approval. If they cannot face acknowledging that people may come to them > because of this, then p

Re: consultant entries that will be removed unless they "pong"

2005-07-15 Thread Adam McKenna
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 01:00:28AM +0100, Rich Walker wrote: > Why should Debian *advertise* the services of someone who will not > return the favour? Why should a consultant be *forced* to advertise for Debian in order to obtain listing in our directory? To me, this smacks of the kind of additio

Re: consultant entries that will be removed unless they "pong"

2005-07-15 Thread Adam McKenna
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 02:53:35PM -0700, Michael K. Edwards wrote: > Could the DPL please just delegate somebody with authority to weed > this list based on whatever criteria they think wise, so that we don't > have to debate endlessly about who's a > domain-squatter-PageRank-manipulator and who's

Re: consultant entries that will be removed unless they "pong"

2005-07-15 Thread Adam McKenna
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 10:27:06PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > Maybe we could do it both way, and split the listing into two lists, those > consultants that are ready to aknowledge debian, and those that prefer to hide > they do debian work. You're being quite presumptuous about people's motives.

Re: consultant entries that will be removed unless they "pong"

2005-07-15 Thread Adam McKenna
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 08:56:11PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > > Debian has *no* business of telling people what to put on their websites. > > If someone doesn't like the fact that a consultant doesn't list Debian on > > their website, then they don't have to use that consultant. Suggesting that > >

Re: consultant entries that will be removed unless they "pong"

2005-07-15 Thread Adam McKenna
*no* business of telling people what to put on their websites. If someone doesn't like the fact that a consultant doesn't list Debian on their website, then they don't have to use that consultant. Suggesting that we should be filtering out potential consultants based on the conte

Re: Branden's mail policies

2005-06-23 Thread Adam McKenna
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 08:55:58PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As DPL he is the public face of the project and should make extra effort to > > contact people when doing so would benefit the project. > > Sure, but many of these

Re: Branden's mail policies

2005-06-23 Thread Adam McKenna
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 08:40:29PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Adam McKenna] > > It is fine for individual developers to act like antisocial fuckwits. > > Sure. Just carry on the way you are. :) > > > It is not acceptable for our DPL to behave that way (not whe

Re: Branden's mail policies

2005-06-23 Thread Adam McKenna
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 05:03:15AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > I don't see him trying to fix anything. Rather, I see him not wasting > time on trying to fix brainlessly broken crap but instead just > ignoring it and carrying on. It is fine for individual developers to act like antisocial fuckw

Re: Poll results: User views on the FDL issue

2005-04-20 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 03:33:03PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > So, while perhaps you do find PDF based documentation to be pretty > useless, it can actually be used by people. I do, actually, but that's not what I was saying. And if you'll notice, some incarnations of PDF are still considered t

Re: Poll results: User views on the FDL issue

2005-04-20 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 01:01:31PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > A work that only allows distribution of patches does not meet DFSG #4. > It must also specifically allow the distribution of modified binaries > made from those patches. Maybe it's just me, but since I can't read binary, I would find

Re: Poll results: User views on the FDL issue

2005-04-20 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 03:20:55PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: > > They promote the sharing of the information in the invariant section. In > > fact, they require it. The question is, will less people share the document > > if they are forced to share it with the invariant section attached? I th

Re: Poll results: User views on the FDL issue

2005-04-20 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 08:03:48AM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: > Proprietary licenses protect the authors' rights even more. Never > publishing the work, and therefore never subjecting it to copyright > law, also protects the authors' rights. Neither of those help freedom > or the sharing of info

Re: GFDL freedoms

2005-04-15 Thread Adam McKenna
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 07:06:51PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: > There are many jurisdictions without the US's concept of "fair use". Freedoms > depending on fair use are not sufficient for Debian--a license with non-free > restrictions is not typically considered free because those restrictions a

Re: GFDL freedoms

2005-04-15 Thread Adam McKenna
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 12:39:13AM +0200, David Schmitt wrote: > > > > So I'm not sure why you couldn't also do it with text licensed under > > > > the GFDL. > > > > > > Indeed. But this obviously then is no "free" work. Why should Debian want > > > to distribute that in main? > > > > I'm not sure

Re: GFDL freedoms

2005-04-15 Thread Adam McKenna
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 11:59:38PM +0200, David Schmitt wrote: > On Thursday 14 April 2005 22:32, Adam McKenna wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 10:17:12PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > Now imagine someone who's doing a study on available algorithms for > > &g

Re: GFDL freedoms

2005-04-14 Thread Adam McKenna
nd an Openoffice doc. > > Why on earth would we want to exclude openoffice docs (provided that the > > contents is licensed freely?) > > We don't, that's the whole point. The FDL definition of 'transparent' is > so broken that it excludes OOo docs. How does

Re: GFDL freedoms

2005-04-14 Thread Adam McKenna
t deals exclusively with the relationship of the publishers or authors of the Document to the Document's overall subject", and may contain "nothing that could fall directly within that overall subject." --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED