Re: A policy on use of AI-generated content in Debian

2024-05-03 Thread Mo Zhou
On 5/3/24 12:10, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On that front, useful "related work" are the policies that scientific journals and conferences (which are exposed *a lot* to this, given their main activity is vetting textual documents) have put in place about this. Indeed. Here are some examples: Natu

Re: A policy on use of AI-generated content in Debian

2024-05-03 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Tiago" == Tiago Bortoletto Vaz writes: Tiago> Hi Jose, Tiago> Thanks for you input, I have a few comments: Tiago> On Fri, May 03, 2024 at 11:02:47AM -0300, Jose-Luis Rivas wrote: >> On Thu May 2, 2024 at 9:21 PM -03, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: >> > Right, note that th

Re: A policy on use of AI-generated content in Debian

2024-05-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Stefano Zacchiroli writes: > (1) You are free to use AI tools to *improve* your content, but not to > create it from scratch for you. > This point is particular important for non-native English speakers, > who can benefit a lot more than natives from tool support for tasks > like

Re: A policy on use of AI-generated content in Debian

2024-05-03 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
Hi Jose, Thanks for you input, I have a few comments: On Fri, May 03, 2024 at 11:02:47AM -0300, Jose-Luis Rivas wrote: > On Thu May 2, 2024 at 9:21 PM -03, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: > > Right, note that they acknowledged this policy is a working in progress. Not > > perfect, but 'something need

Re: A policy on use of AI-generated content in Debian

2024-05-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, May 02, 2024 at 08:21:28PM -0400, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: > So I'm actually more concerned about LLM being mindlessly applied in > our communication processes (NM, bts, debconf, irc, planet, wiki, > website, debian.net stuff, etc) than one using some AI-assisted code > in our infra, at

Re: A policy on use of AI-generated content in Debian

2024-05-03 Thread Jose-Luis Rivas
On Thu May 2, 2024 at 9:21 PM -03, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: > Right, note that they acknowledged this policy is a working in progress. Not > perfect, but 'something needed to be done, quickly'. It's hard to find a > balance here, but I kind of share this sense of urgency. > > [...] > > This poin

Re: A policy on use of AI-generated content in Debian

2024-05-03 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Fri, May 03, 2024 at 01:04:29PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > If I would hear that other Debian developers use them in that context, I > would seriously question whether there is any value to spend my > volunteer time in keeping debian/copyright files accurate to the level > of details our Poli

Re: A policy on use of AI-generated content in Debian

2024-05-03 Thread Dominik George
Hi, >> Generative AI tools **produce** derivatives of other people's copyrighted >> works. > >They *can* do that, but so can humans (and will). Humans look at a >product or code and write new code that sometimes resembles the >original very much. Can I ask the LLM where it was probably inspired?