Re: What does it mean to be inclusive

2022-02-22 Thread Charles Plessy
[Busy ? Read the two first lines of each paragraph and skip the rest.] What is inclusion ? For me, inclusion means taking care of letting everybody participate. Aspects of this related with expressing ourselves in a more careful way in order to avoid hurting others have been amply expressed alre

Re: History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes

2022-02-22 Thread Pirate Praveen
2022, ഫെബ്രുവരി 22 11:39:48 PM IST, Andrey Rahmatullin ൽ എഴുതി >On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 12:29:53PM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: >> Allow me, if you will, to talk a bit about something that's been on my mind >> a bit over the last handful of years in Debian. >I've heard a "we will discuss it a

Re: History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes

2022-02-22 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Paul" == Paul Tagliamonte writes: Paul> Hello, Debianites, Allow me, if you will, to talk a bit about Paul> something that's been on my mind a bit over the last handful Paul> of years in Debian. It's something that's pretty widely Paul> circulated in particular circles, but

Re: History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes

2022-02-22 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 12:29:53PM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > Allow me, if you will, to talk a bit about something that's been on my mind > a bit over the last handful of years in Debian. I've heard a "we will discuss it and let you know in 5 years" joke about Debian before I've even started

History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes

2022-02-22 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Hello, Debianites, Allow me, if you will, to talk a bit about something that's been on my mind a bit over the last handful of years in Debian. It's something that's pretty widely circulated in particular circles, but I don't think I've seen it on a Debian list before, so here's some words that I'v

Re: What does it mean to be inclusive

2022-02-22 Thread Devin Prater
For me, inclusion means working with everyone to make Debian as useful an operating system as possible for as many people as possible. I love that Debian is one of the *only* Linux distributions that has a good accessibility wiki, plays the beep to allow me, a blind person, to press s then enter to

Re: What does it mean to be inclusive

2022-02-22 Thread Philip Hands
Felix Lechner writes: > Hi, > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 7:28 AM Sam Hartman wrote: >> >> In my model, the bar for excluding an individual, particularly at the >> beginning is very low. >> >> * We expect people to agree to the social contract. >> That's a big exclusion; a lot of people don't care