Cancelling miniDebConf Montreal 2020

2020-04-16 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
Dear all, This message is to inform you that after some discussion we have decided to cancel our miniDebConf this year, which was supposed to happen on August 6th to August 9th in Montreal[1]. We know that it can be frustrating for some and we sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cau

Re: [BTB] Asking vs enforcing (was: [Summary] Discourse for Debian)

2020-04-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, April 16, 2020 6:22:32 PM EDT Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > Le 16 avril 2020 23:17:46 GMT+02:00, Scott Kitterman a écrit : > >On Thursday, April 16, 2020 4:58:08 PM EDT Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > >... > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I'm contacting you both publicly (via debian-project@) a

[BTB] Asking vs enforcing (was: [Summary] Discourse for Debian)

2020-04-16 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Le 16 avril 2020 23:17:46 GMT+02:00, Scott Kitterman a écrit : >On Thursday, April 16, 2020 4:58:08 PM EDT Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: >... >> Hi, >> >> I'm contacting you both publicly (via debian-project@) and privately >(on >> your GMail address) in the name of the Community Team following th

Re: [Summary] Discourse for Debian

2020-04-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, April 16, 2020 4:58:08 PM EDT Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: ... > Hi, > > I'm contacting you both publicly (via debian-project@) and privately (on > your GMail address) in the name of the Community Team following this > subthread. Sigh. To quote from the recent DPL delegation for your

Re: [Summary] Discourse for Debian

2020-04-16 Thread Charles Plessy
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:26:48AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > > I spoke up, a couple people said I missed the mark. > > If I had gotten the mark right, I have high confidence that several > > more people would have chimed in at that point. > > So, yeah, thanks for calling out that I appear

Re: [Summary] Discourse for Debian

2020-04-16 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Le mercredi 15 avril 2020 à 13:02:53-0400, rhkra...@gmail.com a écrit : > I sincerely apologize to anybody I offended. See (or don't see) below. > > On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 11:49:56 AM Holger Levsen wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 10:22:29AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > This mus

Re: Discourse usability

2020-04-16 Thread Abhijith PA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello. hartm...@debian.org writes: > I'll admit to wanting to see an attempt at mailman3 or something > like that but not having the energy to put into it. I wonder if you > or some of the people who would like to try something else could > get tog

Re: [Summary] Discourse for Debian

2020-04-16 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 15 avril 2020 12:45 +01, Neil McGovern: >> Would you be willing to list out which points it is from the given >> "cons" category which you see as positives? > > I'd really rather not at this stage, as I'm already seemingly having to > spend time talking about how Discourse is set up, rather tha

Re: [Summary] Discourse for Debian

2020-04-16 Thread Steffen Möller
On 16.04.20 20:18, Olek Wojnar wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:19 PM Ross Vandegrift mailto:rvandegr...@debian.org>> wrote: Sorry for not speaking up, but I agreed with your concern.  I thought the summary overemphasized cons and dismissed the pros. I'm sending this in case thi

Re: [Summary] Discourse for Debian

2020-04-16 Thread Olek Wojnar
On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:19 PM Ross Vandegrift wrote: > Sorry for not speaking up, but I agreed with your concern. I thought > the summary overemphasized cons and dismissed the pros. > > I'm sending this in case this is a situation where only negative > feedback is voiced. I think Neil's expe

Re: [Summary] Discourse for Debian

2020-04-16 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:26:48AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > I spoke up, a couple people said I missed the mark. > If I had gotten the mark right, I have high confidence that several > more people would have chimed in at that point. > So, yeah, thanks for calling out that I appeared to be in th

Re: [Summary] Discourse for Debian

2020-04-16 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Scott" == Scott Kitterman writes: Scott> Sam, Scott> I think you've missed the mark here, except perhaps the why Scott> another service section at the end. Scott> Personally I'm in the "I think it's unsuitable for Debian" Scott> camp and I see my concerns represented.

Re: [Summary] Discourse for Debian

2020-04-16 Thread Christian Kastner
On 2020-04-15 13:45, Neil McGovern wrote: > If there is sufficient pushback, I'll delete the instance, move on with > my life, and conclude that no one in Debian can possibly try and > innovate or do new things unless it is either: > * 100% optional for people, or > * made completely compatable wit

Debian Maintainers Keyring changes

2020-04-16 Thread Debian FTP Masters
The following changes to the debian-maintainers keyring have just been activated: haavard_aa...@yahoo.no Full name: Håvard Flaget Aasen Added key: B5F525D0EDAB8257DE84F0DB2834516CDA1E968D Debian distribution maintenance software, on behalf of the Keyring maintainers

Re: [Summary] Discourse for Debian

2020-04-16 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 10:39:31AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > writes: > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:45:13PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > > >> If there is sufficient pushback, I'll delete the instance, move on with > >> my life, and conclude that no one in Debian can possibly try and > >> inno