Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 09:54:38PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 08:51:38PM +0200, Fabian Grünbichler wrote: > > another case in point from last month(!) and a little more to the South, > > where Vienna hosted this year's Europride: > > > > https://www.wienerlinien.at/eportal3

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 08:51:38PM +0200, Fabian Grünbichler wrote: > another case in point from last month(!) and a little more to the South, > where Vienna hosted this year's Europride: > > https://www.wienerlinien.at/eportal3/ep/contentView.do/pageTypeId/66526/programId/74577/contentTypeId/1001

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 07:59:35PM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: > Marc Haber writes: > > On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 10:32:04AM -0600, Jason Crain wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 05:40:54PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > >> > In this gay pride month discussion what is politically correct for > >> > p

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

Marc Haber writes: > On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 10:32:04AM -0600, Jason Crain wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 05:40:54PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: >> > In this gay pride month discussion what is politically correct for >> > people in the US is considered offensive by people in Germany, and >> > wh

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 11:51:18AM -0300, Chris Lamb wrote: > I wish to posit the existence of a third group who are not partipating > in this discussion. > This group are simply too exhausted and bored of making the same > refutations in these debates and have long given up trying. Indeed, > the

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 05:33:25PM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: > Adrian Bunk writes: > > In this discussion here we have two pretty distinct groups of people: > > > > The first group has the opinion that Debian should honor various > > minorities, and that Debian in general should have also a pol

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 10:32:04AM -0600, Jason Crain wrote: > On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 05:40:54PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > In this gay pride month discussion what is politically correct for > > people in the US is considered offensive by people in Germany, and > > what would be considered pol

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 05:40:54PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > In this gay pride month discussion what is politically correct for > people in the US is considered offensive by people in Germany, and > what would be considered politically correct by Germans would be > considered offensive by peopl

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 04:07:40PM +0200, Ulrike Uhlig wrote: > Hi! > > > On 02.07.19 22:21, Adrian Bunk wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 08:14:40AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > Every country has its own conventions, problems and solutions. > > But these are often specific to one country, a

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

Adrian Bunk writes: > In this discussion here we have two pretty distinct groups of people: > > The first group has the opinion that Debian should honor various > minorities, and that Debian in general should have also a political > mission. > > The second group is unhappy with people being hono

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

Martina Ferrari writes ("Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them"): > Ian, Norbert observation seems to be true. While you have highlighted > problematic behaviour in many cases, it does seem to be the case that > you are using non-blind CCs to AH as a way to put extra pressure on > people

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

Norbert, On 03/07/2019 14:44, Norbert Preining wrote: > This is a common pattern in Ian's emails. I would dare to call it > "sublimal threatening". Unfortunately nobody in Debian seems to think > that this is harassment, in particular the AH team seems not to think > so. Please, do not speculate

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

Adrian Bunk wrote: > In this discussion here we have two pretty distinct groups of people: > > The first group has the opinion that Debian should honor various > minorities, and that Debian in general should have also a political > mission. > > The second group is unhappy with people being hon

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 07:05:08AM -0600, Jason Crain wrote: > On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 11:21:03PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 08:14:40AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > > > > [listmaster copied in hopes they will agree with my assessment here] > > >... > > > If you are go

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

Hi! > On 02.07.19 22:21, Adrian Bunk wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 08:14:40AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > Every country has its own conventions, problems and solutions. > But these are often specific to one country, and not applicable > to other countries or global projects. > People should b

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

On 03/07/2019 13:54, Adrian Bunk wrote: > BTW: > Was your longer reply to me intentionally only Cc'ed to > antiharassment/listmaster/leader, or could you forward > it also to debian-project? > There is nothing private involved, and if you want want action to > be taken against me for my statement

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

Dear Ian, We are aware of your opinions, and your stance toward continental culture. And without doubt you showed this stance again in a very clear way. Thanks. On July 3, 2019 9:54:44 PM GMT+09:00, Adrian Bunk wrote: >On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 01:00:42PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: >BTW: >Was y

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 11:17:50PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 11:21:03PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > People in the US are used to minority quotas in various places. > > > > In most European countries it would be considered unacceptable racism > > if skin color would pl

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 11:21:03PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 08:14:40AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > > [listmaster copied in hopes they will agree with my assessment here] > >... > > If you are going to participate in a diversity discussion beyond a > > certain point y

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 01:00:42PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Adam Borowski writes ("Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them"): > > On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 11:21:03PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > People in the US are used to minority quotas in various places. > > > > > > In most Europe

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Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

Adam Borowski writes ("Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them"): > On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 11:21:03PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > People in the US are used to minority quotas in various places. > > > > In most European countries it would be considered unacceptable racism > > if skin col

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