Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules?

2017-08-14 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 10:32:57AM -0700, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > > Also, I don't want to move lots of software to contrib. I would much > > > > rather have it fixed by removing the support for the non-free services, > > > > or by having plugin systems that allow only the non-free-interfacing

Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules?

2017-08-14 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 8/14/17 5:42 AM, Marc Haber wrote: On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 05:29:20PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: "Dr. Bas Wijnen" writes: Also, I don't want to move lots of software to contrib. I would much rather have it fixed by removing the support for the non-free services, or by having plugin system

Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules?

2017-08-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 05:29:20PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > "Dr. Bas Wijnen" writes: > > Also, I don't want to move lots of software to contrib. I would much > > rather have it fixed by removing the support for the non-free services, > > or by having plugin systems that allow only the non-fre

Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules?

2017-08-14 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 01:07:32PM +, Dr. Bas Wijnen wrote: > > you are running this on a computer with non-free software (*). Should > > everything > > now be in contrib? > > No, I explained before that I think we should be pragmatic. We already were, before this discussion. -- WBR, wRAR

Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules?

2017-08-14 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 08:51:06AM -0400, Holger Levsen wrote: > you are running this on a computer with non-free software (*). Should > everything > now be in contrib? No, I explained before that I think we should be pragmatic. > Or can we maybe rather bury this thread? I do not see how "you r

Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules?

2017-08-14 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, you are running this on a computer with non-free software (*). Should everything now be in contrib? Or can we maybe rather bury this thread? (*) all hardware includes non free software… at least all, which is assembled into a "computer". You surely find some hardware pieces with only free

Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules?

2017-08-14 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 05:28:29PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Miles Fidelman writes: > > > Getting past all the obfuscatory count and counterpoint, there seem to > > be two clear questions on the table: > > > 1. Given a piece of FOSS client software, that has no purpose other > > than to inte