Re: Debian packages advertising non-free services

2017-08-07 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 01:47:29AM -0400, Scott Kitterman a écrit : > > I think the general rule for software with a FOSS license that has no other > purpose than to interact with proprietary services is to put it in contrib. Hi Scott and everybody, I think that unfortunately there is no clea

Re: Debian packages advertising non-free services

2017-08-07 Thread Ben Finney
Vincent Bernat writes: > It was more to highlight that there is absolutely no consensus that > interacting with proprietary services through the network is the same > as combining work with a proprietary program. Okay, and I think everyone here would agree those are not the same. So I'm not sure

Re: Debian packages advertising non-free services

2017-08-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, August 08, 2017 07:34:47 AM Vincent Bernat wrote: > ❦ 8 août 2017 09:31 +1000, Ben Finney : > >> However, it is easy to find other packages interacting with > >> proprietary services without a free implementation. For example, any > >> package interacting with Google Cloud (golang-go

Re: Debian packages advertising non-free services

2017-08-07 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 8 août 2017 09:31 +1000, Ben Finney  : >> However, it is easy to find other packages interacting with >> proprietary services without a free implementation. For example, any >> package interacting with Google Cloud (golang-google-cloud package). > > I am in agreement with Bas when he says: If

Re: [pkg-go] Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service

2017-08-07 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Mon, Aug 07 2017, Dr. Bas Wijnen wrote: >> Example: [s3cmd] > > How is this not in contrib? This software is useless without the > non-free service (which is also software, and it is not in main) from > Amazon. Using the service doesn't involve running any non-free code *on your compu

Debian packages advertising non-free services (was: [pkg-go] Bug#856139: Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service)

2017-08-07 Thread Ben Finney
Vincent Bernat writes: > ❦ 7 août 2017 18:12 GMT, "Dr. Bas Wijnen"  : > > >> Example: [s3cmd] > > > > How is this not in contrib? This software is useless without the > > non-free service (which is also software, and it is not in main) > > from Amazon. Policy even mentions as an example for thi

Re: Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service

2017-08-07 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 02:25:51AM +0800, Shengjing Zhu wrote: > The description of s3cmd is outdated. It's *not* useless without AWS. > It can be used with self-hosted S3 protocol compatible service, such > as Ceph RGW, minio[1]. Both are free softwares, and Ceph is in our > main archive. Ah, tha

Re: [pkg-go] Bug#856139: Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service

2017-08-07 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 7 août 2017 18:12 GMT, "Dr. Bas Wijnen"  : >> We have all kind of software advertising non-free services. Search for >> "Google" or "Amazon". The comparison is even unfair as the service >> advertised here is available as free software (not the case for most >> services from Amazon and Google

Re: [pkg-go] Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service

2017-08-07 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 02:15:17PM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: > ❦ 4 août 2017 20:03 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard  : > > No, at worst this is misuse of Debian ressources for commercial gain - > > i.e. using long description field for advertising a non-free service. > > We have all kind of software