Re: should debian comment about the recent 'ransomware' malware.

2017-05-17 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes: > On Wed, 17 May 2017, Holger Levsen wrote: >> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 01:59:37PM +1000, Russell Stuart wrote: >> > Microsoft users or indeed Android users, iOS users and I presume OSX >> > users get security updates installed automagically by default. >> >> th

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Re: should debian comment about the recent 'ransomware' malware.

2017-05-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 17 May 2017, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 01:59:37PM +1000, Russell Stuart wrote: > > Microsoft users or indeed Android users, iOS users and I presume OSX > > users get security updates installed automagically by default. > > that's awesome and I hope by 2019 the default

Re: If Debian support OS certification?

2017-05-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 9:32 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > A trustworthy certification report that said "this machine would have > passed the certification, except that the wifi card requires a > separately supplied firmware blob from Debian non-free" would be > extremely useful to many users and poten

Re: If Debian support OS certification?

2017-05-17 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 02:32:20PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > A trustworthy certification report that said "this machine would have > passed the certification, except that the wifi card requires a > separately supplied firmware blob from Debian non-free" would be > extremely useful to many users a

Re: If Debian support OS certification?

2017-05-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 9:28 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > I would be in favour of asking for payment. I think only optional donations are acceptable, I've written a few mails upthread about that. > The work of actually doing the testing is tedious. If we think people > should be doing that, they sh

Re: If Debian support OS certification?

2017-05-17 Thread Ian Jackson
Paul Wise writes ("Re: If Debian support OS certification?"): > For Debian I expect your proposal "do not require loading externally > supplied non-free firmware" is something that most of Debian can agree > is a reasonable endorsement target for now. Yes. I think this is rather unfortunate for a

Re: If Debian support OS certification?

2017-05-17 Thread Ian Jackson
Paul Wise writes ("Re: If Debian support OS certification?"): > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 12:18 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > If we made such a decision, I'd be very supportive of it. We could make > > it in a "soft" way, ie tell that we accept some kind of (re-occurring?) > > sponsorship, and provid

Re: should debian comment about the recent 'ransomware' malware.

2017-05-17 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 01:59:37PM +1000, Russell Stuart wrote: > Microsoft users or indeed Android users, iOS users and I presume OSX > users get security updates installed automagically by default. that's awesome and I hope by 2019 the default stable Debian desktop install will do that too! -