Re: How to install Debian 8.6.0 dvd 2 & 3 from iso

2016-12-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 8:12 PM, Chandan raj wrote: > I want to install Debian 8.6.0 dvd 2 and 3 which is in the .iso format > without burning it in dvd.I have installed dvd 1 which contain operating > system.Can I install it after installing Debian operating system. Please contact the Debian user

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-01 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 06:26:28PM +, Clint Adams wrote: > On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 07:20:36PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > We should go for "weak code ownership" instead, which *in theory* is > > what we already have (given every DD can NMU any package), but the > > *culture* of strong

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-01 Thread Clint Adams
On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 07:20:36PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > We should go for "weak code ownership" instead, which *in theory* is > what we already have (given every DD can NMU any package), but the > *culture* of strong ownership is so rooted in the project that people > are still too afr

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 03:46:05PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > 3. Abolish maintainership entirely. This is the obviously right solution. Everything else would be a temporary work-around to inefficiencies and bugs introduced by the existence of explicit maintainership. With explicit maintainershi

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-01 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 06:00:42PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > I envisioned a mediation stage, to try to reach consensus, before > deciding the conflict is irreducible and needs to be settled as such. > > Could the MIA team do this ? Would you want to ? It seems like it > would need many of the

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Mattia Rizzolo writes ("Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers"): > We have a very similar case within the MIA team (the willing contributor > contacted us instead of the TC). The only difference is probably that > the maintainer sent his NAK to me on IRC instead of in a email, and now > h

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-01 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 1 décembre 2016 15:46 GMT, Ian Jackson  : > There is a recent case where: > * The maintainer has done nothing to the package for many years, >other than infrequent (and usually short) emails to NAK >contributions from others; > * The package is years out of date compared to upstream,

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Sean Whitton writes ("Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers"): > Although I don't personally know of any such DDs, I agree that random > selection sounds like a bad idea. DDs who don't want to be involved in > this sort of work would feel under some obligation to respond, even if > they k

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Mattia Rizzolo writes ("Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers"): > We have a very similar case within the MIA team [...] Thanks, yes, I remember reading about that. I think less-severe but still very bad situations are probably more common :-/. > > 2. Provide a new process for deposing

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-01 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 03:46:05PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Regardless of the reasons, this is not good enough. > > Maintainership is a leadership position, with serious governance > authority. Leaders must be accountable. Bad leaders must be > replaced. > > It is clear to me that th

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-01 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 03:46:05PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > There is a recent case where: > * The maintainer has done nothing to the package for many years, >other than infrequent (and usually short) emails to NAK >contributions from others; > * The package is years out of date compare

Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

2016-12-01 Thread Ian Jackson
In our current arrangements, the TC is the only body who can rescue a package from a maintainer who is determined to sit on it.[1] The TC have never exercised this power, when a maintainer has insisted that they want to keep maintaining the package. It is surely obvious that there must have been

How to install Debian 8.6.0 dvd 2 & 3 from iso

2016-12-01 Thread Chandan raj
Sir, I want to install Debian 8.6.0 dvd 2 and 3 which is in the .iso format without burning it in dvd.I have installed dvd 1 which contain operating system.Can I install it after installing Debian operating system. Please help me. Thanks.