> "Zlatan" == Zlatan Todoric writes:
Zlatan> On the other hand - I do believe that Debian contributors
Zlatan> should uphold Social Contract and DFSG as much as possible
Zlatan> because if we don't push it forward and believe in it, then
Zlatan> no one else will.
I agree with
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 08:45:15PM +0200, Zlatan Todoric wrote:
> > Debian isn't advertised as a distribution whose main goal is to
> > provide 100% free something while not providing anything non-free,
> > I think there are other projects with such advertising. So I think
> > that such strong meta
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 06:24:09PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > Mostly, I *personally* do not find those people authentic enough to
> > > uphold any such community standard. It's somewhat like donating to a
> > > species conservation organisation, taking the money from a purse made of
> > > cr
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On 06/16/2015 03:27 PM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> Debian isn't advertised as a distribution whose main goal is to
> provide 100% free something while not providing anything non-free,
> I think there are other projects with such advertising. So I
Dominik George writes ("Re: What it means to be Debian"):
> I strongly support that. I also do *not* think that everyone who uses
> non-free services or the like should leave Debian or is neitrely bad for
> the community.
>
> Mostly, I *personally* do not find those people authentic enough to
> up
On Tue, 2015-06-16 at 18:27 +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 02:46:45PM +0200, Dominik George wrote:
> > Mostly, I *personally* do not find those people authentic enough to
> > uphold any such community standard. It's somewhat like donating to a
> > species conservation or
Dominik George writes:
> If any Debian contributor BELIEVES that the use of Google, and the
> like, is a good thing, then the illness lies in the divergence between
> their contribution and their values, and in that case, I honestly do
> NOT respect that and consider it harmful.
Please note
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 02:46:45PM +0200, Dominik George wrote:
> Mostly, I *personally* do not find those people authentic enough to
> uphold any such community standard. It's somewhat like donating to a
> species conservation organisation, taking the money from a purse made of
> crocodile skin. I
> "Dominik" == Dominik George writes:
Dominik> b) BELIEF =
Dominik> If any Debian contributor BELIEVES that the use of Google,
Dominik> and the like, is a good thing, then the illness lies in the
Dominik> divergence between their contribution and their values, and
Hi,
> This issue is important enough to me that I'd like to take a moment to
> share mine. I'm not trying to pursuade you. I really appreciate how you
> presented your position; you didn't try to say I was wrong, and you were
> honest and open even when there is disagreement.
> I am not judging y
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:56:12AM +0200, Dominik George wrote:
> Hi,o
>
> On 16.06.2015 05:00, Sam Hartman wrote:
> >> "Dominik" == Dominik George writes:
> >
> > Dominik> On 08.06.2015 20:46, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > >> Google services are quite popular among the FLOSS crowd at la
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:56:12AM +0200, Dominik George wrote:
> I really also see a strong imbalance between various parts of the
> project. On the one hand, there is a non-free section that holds
> non-free software, ready to be installed by users at will. Then, there
> is you (and probably othe
Hi,o
On 16.06.2015 05:00, Sam Hartman wrote:
>> "Dominik" == Dominik George writes:
>
> Dominik> On 08.06.2015 20:46, Florian Weimer wrote:
> >> Google services are quite popular among the FLOSS crowd at large.
> >> You might not see many Gmail posters on Debian mailing lists, bu
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