Re: open source or free software?

2014-09-04 Thread John Sullivan
Daniel Pocock writes: > On 28/08/14 08:16, Chris Bannister wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 06:05:55PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: >>>"JSHint is open source and will always stay this way."[2] >>> >>>"To be honest, I'm getting tired of these not-true-open-source talks. >>> Out of all thin

Re: ECCN for OS

2014-09-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 07:51:06PM +, Archuleta, John A wrote: > We have a Silicon Mechanics Server with Debian OS that we are shipping > to Brazil for a climate experiment. Do you have an Export Control > Classification Number (ECCN) for your OS so we can get export > documents issued by our c

Re: ECCN for OS

2014-09-04 Thread Paul R. Tagliamonte
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Archuleta, John A wrote: > ECCN https://wiki.debian.org/USExportControl might be your best bet Cheers, Paul -- :wq -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian

Re: Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-04 Thread Christian Kastner
On 2014-09-04 17:40, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > In conclusion, I think we should stop building administrative procedures > to enforce the CoC but start integrating it as a part of our collective > and individual responsibilities as Debian events attendees; there's > antiharassment@ for the up

ECCN for OS

2014-09-04 Thread Archuleta, John A
We have a Silicon Mechanics Server with Debian OS that we are shipping to Brazil for a climate experiment. Do you have an Export Control Classification Number (ECCN) for your OS so we can get export documents issued by our company. Thanks-John

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-04 Thread Ian Jackson
Chris Bannister writes ("Re: [Debconf-discuss] Code of Conduct violations handling process"): > On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 01:13:23PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > If a CoC complaint is made, and the decisionmakers consider the > > complaint unjustified, the complaint should not be referred elsewhere

Re: Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-04 Thread Ean Schuessler
- "Ean Schuessler" wrote: > I'm saying it *does* do that but I am saying that we can't ever > allow it to. Oops. Should read "I'm not saying it *does* do that...". Sorry. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Ian Jackson [2014-09-04 05:15 -0700]: > I am not angry or upset with the performance of Debconf organisers > or the antiharassment team. Rather, I feel that they were not > provided with the tools and support required to do their job. Right, and we are also new to this. We should no

Re: Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-04 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Hi all, Le mercredi, 3 septembre 2014, 18.55:04 Ian Jackson a écrit : > I hope that regardless of your opinions about the specific incident, > you would support the ideas that: > > - If we have a CoC it should be enforced. (Snipped a lot of administrativia suggestions.) "To enforce" is the wro

Re: Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-04 Thread Mason Loring Bliss
On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 06:31:59PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Neil Gaiman writes: > > I was reading a book (about interjections, oddly enough) yesterday > which included the phrase `In these days of political correctness...' > talking about no longer making jokes that denigrated people for

Re: Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, September 04, 2014 09:57:27 Ean Schuessler wrote: > - "Russ Allbery" wrote: > > At least in the United States, people who use the term "political > > correctness" in all seriousness as something they dislike and think is > > bad are generally people with whom you would not want to

Re: Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-04 Thread Ean Schuessler
- "Russ Allbery" wrote: > At least in the United States, people who use the term "political > correctness" in all seriousness as something they dislike and think is > bad are generally people with whom you would not want to share a project > and people who you would be best off avoiding. Thi

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 01:13:23PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > If a CoC complaint is made, and the decisionmakers consider the > complaint unjustified, the complaint should not be referred elsewhere > or escalated. Instead, the decision (complaint considered not > justified, no action will be t

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-04 Thread Ian Jackson
martin f krafft writes ("Re: [Debconf-discuss] Code of Conduct violations handling process"): > also sprach Patty Langasek [2014-09-03 16:57 -0700]: > > The way this particular Code of Conduct Violation Complaint was > > handled was entirely my fault. > > I don't think there is any point in thin

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-04 Thread Ian Jackson
Steve Langasek writes ("Re: [Debconf-discuss] Code of Conduct violations handling process"): > In the particular incident prompting this thread, [...] I started writing a response to this. But I found that my response, no matter how carefully phrased, read like an attack on the people who dealt

Re: Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-04 Thread Neil McGovern
I have tried not to reply to this, but there's some bits in here I don't think should go unchallenged, but I'll stick to the major points rather than replying to each comment. On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 09:15:33AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 9/4/14, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > I'm offended at

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-04 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 12:20 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: > It's also possible that, as a matter of course, we should ensure that the > antiharassment team responds timely in writing to all complaints, even if > there is an out-of-band follow-up. Following up in the same media used for a complaint i

Re: Code of Conduct violations handling process

2014-09-04 Thread Christian Kastner
On 2014-09-04 07:28, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Thu, Sep 04 2014, Christian Kastner wrote: > >> On 2014-09-04 01:34, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >>> On Wed, Sep 03 2014, Steve Langasek wrote: >>> On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 09:52:44AM -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > People associa