Re: keybase.io

2014-04-04 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 08:15:10PM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 12:57:50AM +0100, Jonathan McDowell wrote: > > 2 separate points to make here (as well as the general point Russ and > > Paul have followed up with about what do we trust in general running on > > the same m

Re: keybase.io

2014-04-04 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 08:56:50PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Right. However, I guess that most uses of the app (other than sending > a message saying "yes I'm here, this is me") will require pasting the > key. Or not? Keybase users, please enlighten me: What do you do with > it besides just exist

Re: keybase.io

2014-04-04 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Russ Allbery dijo [Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 04:23:03PM -0700]: > > Well, please enlighten me here: Without fully auditing the Javascript > > code you are using to do the crypto client-side, can you *really* be > > certain your private half has not travelled to Keybase? > > If Javascript running in a b

Re: keybase.io

2014-04-04 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 12:57:50AM +0100, Jonathan McDowell wrote: > 2 separate points to make here (as well as the general point Russ and > Paul have followed up with about what do we trust in general running on > the same machine as your GPG key). Sorry, I wrote that from my phone. My point was

Re: keybase.io

2014-04-04 Thread Jonathan McDowell
[I trimmed the To down to -project because I think everyone on the CC is reading that; I certainly am so no need to explicitly CC me.] On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 05:18:13PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Jonathan McDowell dijo [Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 10:35:41PM +0100]: > > > > To be clear, if I spot any

Re: keybase.io

2014-04-04 Thread Paul R. Tagliamonte
+1 russ. This is true of the dropbox daemon too. Are we to throw out DDs with dropboxd installed? Wine? On Apr 4, 2014 7:23 PM, "Russ Allbery" wrote: > Gunnar Wolf writes: > > > Urgh... > > > Well, please enlighten me here: Without fully auditing the Javascript > > code you are using to do the

Re: keybase.io

2014-04-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Gunnar Wolf writes: > Urgh... > Well, please enlighten me here: Without fully auditing the Javascript > code you are using to do the crypto client-side, can you *really* be > certain your private half has not travelled to Keybase? If Javascript running in a browser has access to your GPG secret

Re: keybase.io

2014-04-04 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Jonathan McDowell dijo [Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 10:35:41PM +0100]: > > > To be clear, if I spot any key > > > that's both in any of the Debian keyrings and in keybase.io, I will > > > proceed as if the key had been lost or compromised and immediately > > > remove it from our keyring. > > > > No, sorr

Re: keybase.io

2014-04-04 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 05:26:40PM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 03:24:27PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > Right, I strongly agree with Luca here. > > I do too Likewise. > > To be clear, if I spot any key > > that's both in any of the Debian keyrings and in keybase.io,

Re: keybase.io

2014-04-04 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Jonathan Dowland dijo [Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 02:50:01PM +0100]: > keybase.io is a thing. This thing lets you, amongst other things, upload a > copy > of your PGP private key to their servers. This is client-side encrypted. > > Discuss. As this thread was started at debian-private, I sent some of

Re: keybase.io

2014-04-04 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 03:24:27PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Right, I strongly agree with Luca here. I do too > To be clear, if I spot any key > that's both in any of the Debian keyrings and in keybase.io, I will > proceed as if the key had been lost or compromised and immediately > remove it f

Re: keybase.io

2014-04-04 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Luca Filipozzi dijo [Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 02:02:09PM +]: > FWIU, the client-side encryption is javascript provided by the service so > modifiable by the service at will and able to capture/transmit passphrase. > > DDs interested in this experimenting with this service are encouraged to NOT > u

Re: keybase.io

2014-04-04 Thread Tobias Frost
Am Freitag, den 04.04.2014, 16:33 +0200 schrieb Tobias Frost: > > Also, some reading suggestion: > https://github.com/keybase/keybase-issues/issues/489 Sorry, just realized this I pasted the wrong link. I meant this one: http://blog.lrdesign.com/2014/03/thoughts-on-keybase-io/ -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: keybase.io

2014-04-04 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 04:33:18PM +0200, Tobias Frost wrote: > Well, this "thing" raises several red flags just by reading "upload ... > private key". This alone smells very wrong, because I'm the opinion a > private key must never leave my (trusted) system) More than that, it's good practice to

Re: keybase.io

2014-04-04 Thread Tobias Frost
Am Freitag, den 04.04.2014, 14:50 +0100 schrieb Jonathan Dowland: > keybase.io is a thing. This thing lets you, amongst other things, upload a > copy > of your PGP private key to their servers. This is client-side encrypted. > > Discuss. Well, this "thing" raises several red flags just by readin

Re: keybase.io

2014-04-04 Thread Luca Filipozzi
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 02:50:01PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > keybase.io is a thing. This thing lets you, amongst other things, upload a > copy of your PGP private key to their servers. This is client-side encrypted. > > Discuss. FWIU, the client-side encryption is javascript provided by th

keybase.io

2014-04-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
keybase.io is a thing. This thing lets you, amongst other things, upload a copy of your PGP private key to their servers. This is client-side encrypted. Discuss. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@list