Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-03-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 06:37:41PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:59:42AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > == > > 1. The Debian project decides to accept a code of conduct for > >participants to its mailinglists, IRC channels, and other modes of > >communication

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-03-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Peter Samuelson writes: > [Jonathan Dowland] >> I think the increasing importance of IRC for people to keep up to date >> on developments in Debian is a bad thing as it excludes people who >> cannot use IRC regularly enough (such as myself). > Increasing importance? What has changed? I don't h

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-03-07 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Jonathan Dowland] > I think the increasing importance of IRC for people to keep up to > date on developments in Debian is a bad thing as it excludes people > who cannot use IRC regularly enough (such as myself). Increasing importance? What has changed? I don't have the impression that IRC is a

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-03-07 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 06:33:44PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:59:42AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > This is to propose a general resolution under §4.1.5 of the constitution > > to propose a Debian code of conduct. > > So I've put up a vote page with

Re: Jessie will still boot.

2014-03-07 Thread Uwe Storbeck
John Goerzen writes: > Because, at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter all that much. It's > just a default. I can only agree about the init system. The best supported system will make it's way to the default anyway, sooner or later. But the discussion is not about the default init syst

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-03-07 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:59:42AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > == > 1. The Debian project decides to accept a code of conduct for >participants to its mailinglists, IRC channels, and other modes of >communication within the project. So I've been wondering under which part of the co

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-03-07 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:59:42AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Hi all, > > This is to propose a general resolution under §4.1.5 of the constitution > to propose a Debian code of conduct. So I've put up a vote page with my current understanding at: https://www.debian.org/vote/2014/vote_002 I'

Jessie will still boot.

2014-03-07 Thread John Goerzen
Dear folks, I wise man once told me, years ago, that he had unsubscribed from debian-devel because of all the noise. I had thought that rather odd at the time, but have come to appreciate it since. Like many, I have my opinion in the init system (my choice: sysvinit - it ain't broke, and I alrea

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-03-07 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, Thibaut Paumard writes: > I am still waiting for your answer to my concerns before I make my mind > on seconding this GR: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2014/03/msg00024.html > > The problem, I think, is that the discussion was drawn onto procedural > technicalities rather than d

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-03-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Thibaut Paumard writes ("Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems"): > I wonder whether this GR has the following corollary: As the author of the TC text (which Matthew has simply adopted), I think I can clarify this. What I'm about to say will come as no surprise to anyone who

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-03-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Cyril Brulebois writes ("Re: GR proposal: code of conduct"): > Kurt Roeckx (2014-03-06): > > As far as I can tell the problem is that you're not using MIME and > > the same problem people have when voting using non-ASCII > > characters. > > Conveniently published not so long ago: > http://debia

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-03-07 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 07/03/2014 10:52, Matthew Vernon a écrit : >> I wish to propose the following general resolution, > This has only had one second. Dear Matthew, I am still waiting for your answer to my concerns before I make my mind on seconding this GR: https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2014/03/msg0002

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-03-07 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, Matthew Vernon writes: > I wish to propose the following general resolution, and hereby call > for seconds. I don't think further lengthy discussion of the issues is This has only had one second. In order to not prolong things indefinitely, I'll withdraw this GR if it's not got sufficient