Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-24 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014, Ian Jackson wrote: > Gunnar Wolf writes ("Re: State of the debian keyring"): > > Our tools (and I don't only mean keyring-maint, but our projectwide > > tools) support only one key per person. And frankly, I do not see a > > case where adding a second one would increase securi

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-24 Thread Russ Allbery
Marco d'Itri writes: > If anybody disagrees then please describe a credible threat model in > which: > - an entity would want to have access to the key of a DD, and > - would find brute forcing a 1024 bit key more practical than > stealing it or coercing a developer to disclose it. Brute-forc

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-24 Thread Marco d'Itri
enr...@enricozini.org wrote: >It also took me a long while to switch because I didn't understand that >it was already this urgent, Because unless you are paranoid, then it is not. If anybody disagrees then please describe a credible threat model in which: - an entity would want to have access to t

Re: jessie doubt debian

2014-02-24 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2014-02-24 at 12:46 -0300, Robson LAURINDO CACHOEIRA wrote: > Well I wonder, why in the Debian testing (jessie), I can not go back > to previous page with Backspace, as it did previously. If you're using Iceweasel/Firefox, see: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.backspace_action > This ha

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-24 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Brian Gupta: > weak key. We would allow DDs to use the new strong key to do their > work for a limited period of time, while they seek the required two DD > signatures. (Say 12 months, but this is fungible.) I am proposing a > role key, so it doesn't get confused with "real sigs" and we can >

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-24 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 05:53:58PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Jonathan McDowell writes ("Re: State of the debian keyring"): > > On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 02:10:12PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > > * The new key must be signed by the old key that is being replaced. > > > > * The new key must be signed

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 08:28:53PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: > I think it would be useful to see an update to debian-devel-announce, > explaining what's the current vulnerability status of 1024bit keys, and > asking to please switch NOW. > > As a potential follow-up plan, I propose this one: Seco

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-24 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014, Ian Jackson wrote: > It can increase security because it can make operations more > convenient at the same level of security, and because people trade off > convenience for security. > > For example, it would be possible to have one key for email encryption > and a different (

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-24 Thread Enrico Zini
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 05:46:53PM +0300, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > (It took me like 4 years to switch to my current 4k key, partly because > I didn't feel the urge to switch, and partly because I would have hated > wasting your time with a malformed request.) It also took me a long while to switc

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-02-24 Thread Brian Gupta
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Sune Vuorela writes ("Re: GR proposal: code of conduct"): >> Much of irc are semiprivate chatter and socializing and not really >> something that should be available to the wider public. > > I don't think this is realistic for channels which an

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-24 Thread Brian Gupta
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Hi, > > On 22/02/14 at 20:57 -0500, Andrew Starr-Bochicchio wrote: >> Has there been any analysis of how active the developers are? I'd >> hazard to guess that a good number should be moved to emeritus status. >> Perhaps we should do a ping

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-02-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Sune Vuorela writes ("Re: GR proposal: code of conduct"): > Much of irc are semiprivate chatter and socializing and not really > something that should be available to the wider public. I don't think this is realistic for channels which anyone in the world can join. There are no doubt many people

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Gunnar Wolf writes ("Re: State of the debian keyring"): > Our tools (and I don't only mean keyring-maint, but our projectwide > tools) support only one key per person. And frankly, I do not see a > case where adding a second one would increase security. Yes, it could > make the transition a little

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Jonathan McDowell writes ("Re: State of the debian keyring"): > On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 02:10:12PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > * The new key must be signed by the old key that is being replaced. > > * The new key must be signed by 2 other keys that are present in the >Debian keyring. Are we n

Re: State of the debian keyring

2014-02-24 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, On 22/02/14 at 20:57 -0500, Andrew Starr-Bochicchio wrote: > Has there been any analysis of how active the developers are? I'd > hazard to guess that a good number should be moved to emeritus status. > Perhaps we should do a ping of developers with 1024 bit keys? I've done a quick hack using

jessie doubt debian

2014-02-24 Thread Robson LAURINDO CACHOEIRA
Well I wonder, why in the Debian testing (jessie), I can not go back to previous page with Backspace, as it did previously. This happened after an upgrade, and the problem is that I can not also enroll in the debian forum. I thank you, and excuse my english. I'm Brazilian. Atenciosamente.

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-02-24 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2014-02-24, Paul Wise wrote: > That would be nice, the IRC channels are currently a big back-channel > that hides a bunch of useful information from the wider public. Much of irc are semiprivate chatter and socializing and not really something that should be available to the wider public. It

Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-02-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 5:48 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > For IRC it's a bit more difficult, because we do not long our IRC > channels by default (or at least I'm not aware we do), with the > exception of meetings run with the help of meetbot. ... > i.e. publicly log our IRC channels. That wou