Wouter Verhelst writes:
> I also don't think it's necessarily a bad thing if someone in Debian
> acquires a lot of power. We are very much a meritocracy; this means you
> can't acquire power without a lot of hard work. Once you've done the
> hard work, you get to decide how you do it, which could
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 06:52:10AM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
> > > What does
> > > "poor behaviour"
> > > mean?
> > That which is socially disruptive.
> You exchange one undefined term against another, but that doesn't
> change the underlying problem, which is, *what* is socially
> disrupt
On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 06:52:10 +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
> You exchange one undefined term against another, but that doesn't
> change the underlying problem, which is, *what* is socially
> disruptive?
[..]
> The whole point is that all these pseudo definitions of normality
> are just fake, fak
On Di, 26 Nov 2013, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> Just because you do not write these words doesn't mean you don't exhibit
> them.
A great example exhibiting the undefinedness and inconsistency
of the CoC. Opinions vary to wide.
I remain with
Assume good faith
and wish you a nice day
Norbert
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 07:01:24AM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
> In contrast to you I have not spoken out words like
> "insult"
> or
> "poor behaviour"
Just because you do not write these words doesn't mean you don't exhibit
them.
I'm out of this nonsense, i've got productive thin
On Di, 26 Nov 2013, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> You see how even this can be used as an insult or to draw comparisons?
> Please don't continue to defend such poor behavior.
Read my answer to Wouter. I hope it helps you to understand my points,
even if you don't like them.
In contrast to you I have
On Mi, 27 Nov 2013, Norbert Preining wrote:
> > crazy comparisons of Debian to the Third Reich, and insinuations that
>
> Huu, where? Do you know meaning of the word "Gedankenexperiment"?
Sorry, forgot the link,
Merry-Webster:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gedankenexperiment
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 06:54:22AM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
> Huu, where? Do you know meaning of the word "Gedankenexperiment"?
> If not, then why do you attack me?
As a "Gedankenexperiment", if you were to stop posting insane things,
we'd all be happier.
You see how even this can be used
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:21:38PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> Op 26-11-13 11:21, Cyril Brulebois schreef:
> > Steve Langasek (2013-11-26):
> [...]
> >> Note that many of our Contributors are not native english speakers or
> > English, I suppose?
> I fall in the category of "not native" her
> crazy comparisons of Debian to the Third Reich, and insinuations that
Huu, where? Do you know meaning of the word "Gedankenexperiment"?
If not, then why do you attack me?
(Hang-over email maybe?)
Norbert
PREINING, Norber
Hi Wouter,
thanks for your reasonable answer, very much welcome in the
bunch of unreasonable on and off list answers.
Of course we can continue this discussion about words forever,
and I will do it another round, but probably that is the last.
> > What does
> > "poor behaviour"
> > mean?
>
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>>> Note that many of our Contributors are not native english speakers or
>>
>> English, I suppose?
>
> I fall in the category of "not native" here, but so do you ;-)
>
> I thought it was supposed to be lower case, but I could be mistaken. A
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 06:21:21AM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
> Lalalalala singing my song of sarcasm that is vital in Viennese life,
> even if people just don't get it, hahahaha.
Uh. When I first awoke, hazy from a night of late drinking, I assumed I
had slept directly through christmas (imag
On Di, 26 Nov 2013, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> Last time i felt like speaking up against poor behaviour in debian was
> when this was posted:
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/05/msg01138.html
Hahahhahaha, and that is the reason why I consider a code of conduct
ridiculous. If statements li
Op 26-11-13 11:21, Cyril Brulebois schreef:
> Steve Langasek (2013-11-26):
[...]
>> Note that many of our Contributors are not native english speakers or
>
> English, I suppose?
I fall in the category of "not native" here, but so do you ;-)
I thought it was supposed to be lower case, but I cou
On 2013-11-26, Norbert Preining wrote:
> What does
> "poor behaviour"
> mean?
Last time i felt like speaking up against poor behaviour in debian was
when this was posted:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/05/msg01138.html
/Sune
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Hi Norbert,
Op 26-11-13 15:07, Norbert Preining schreef:
> Hi,
>
>> but even so, remain respectful. Disagreement is no excuse for poor
>> behaviour or personal attacks, and a community in which people feel
>> threatened is not a healthy community.
>
> What does
> "poor behaviour"
> mean
Op 26-11-13 07:37, Steve Langasek schreef:
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:39:32AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>> Op 08-11-13 23:30, Wouter Verhelst schreef:
>>> Op 05-11-13 16:25, Wouter Verhelst schreef:
>>> [...draft CoC...]
>
>>> To avoid spamming this list with one draft after another, I've pu
Hi,
> but even so, remain respectful. Disagreement is no excuse for poor
> behaviour or personal attacks, and a community in which people feel
> threatened is not a healthy community.
What does
"poor behaviour"
mean?
What does
"person attacks"
mean?
Regarding this:
> Note t
Thanks, Steve (and Wouter, of course). A very minor observation
regarding ordering.
>
> # Debian Code of Conduct
>
> ## Be respectful
>
> In a project the size of Debian, inevitably there will be people with
> whom you may disagree, or find it difficult to cooperate. Accept that,
> but eve
Hi,
As previously announced, we will have a DPL helpers meeting tomorrow
(2013-11-27), at 18:00 UTC, on #debian-dpl.
Titanpad with agenda: http://titanpad.com/debiandpl-20131127
(Please update the status of your action items before the meeting if
possible)
Lucas
-- copy of the age
Steve Langasek (2013-11-26):
> For a full week of that two-week period, alioth was completely down,
> so this draft was inaccessible. This is normally the least of the
> reasons why I would argue that the full text of drafts should be
> posted to the mailing list for discussion, instead of referr
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