Russ Allbery wrote:
> Camaleón writes:
>
> > The mailing list managers/admins have the right to ban whoever they
> > decide, but in the aim of "fair play", the user should also have the
> > right to defend him/herself from the accusations, expose his/her
> > reasoning and be able to restore him/h
Le Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 02:33:34PM -0500, Brian Gupta a écrit :
>
> I don't know the answer but perhaps, we can try experimenting with a system
> where the first action is a polite public warning by listmaster, pointing to
> code of conduct. (Assuming that the code of conduct is updated to cover
>
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Camaleón writes:
>
>> The mailing list managers/admins have the right to ban whoever they
>> decide, but in the aim of "fair play", the user should also have the
>> right to defend him/herself from the accusations, expose his/her
>> reasoning
On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 09:17:29 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Camaleón writes:
>
>> The mailing list managers/admins have the right to ban whoever they
>> decide, but in the aim of "fair play", the user should also have the
>> right to defend him/herself from the accusations, expose his/her
>> reaso
Camaleón writes:
> The mailing list managers/admins have the right to ban whoever they
> decide, but in the aim of "fair play", the user should also have the
> right to defend him/herself from the accusations, expose his/her
> reasoning and be able to restore him/her reputation or recognize the
>
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:46:41 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Was discussing with one of the listmasters (Alexander Wirt) on IRC today
> about mailing list bans, because it turns out that someone I was just
> about to ask the listmasters to ban from debian-devel had just been
> blocke
Le lundi, 4 novembre 2013 15.08:05 Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
> On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 02:51:52PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > > So, what would be the beneficial social effects of publishing the
> > > ban *duration*?
> >
> > The ban duration is an indication of how severe we think the
> >
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 02:51:52PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > So, what would be the beneficial social effects of publishing the ban
> > *duration*?
>
> The ban duration is an indication of how severe we think the violation
> is. You don't get a lifetime ban for a minor transgression and yo
]] Stefano Zacchiroli
> So, what would be the beneficial social effects of publishing the ban
> *duration*?
The ban duration is an indication of how severe we think the violation
is. You don't get a lifetime ban for a minor transgression and you
don't get a one-day ban for serious harassments.
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 02:21:17PM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> I disagree on the point of not making the ban durations public. Although
> I understand the effect you're afraid of, I think that the benefits of
> having the durations public outweigh the downsides: even if the banned
> per
Hi Jonathan,
Le dimanche, 3 novembre 2013 14.06:33 Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
> I think bans should be time-limited in
> almost all cases, with perma-bans being very rare indeed. I don't
> think that ban durations should be disclosed publically or to the
> person banned
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