Re: Should mailing list bans be published?

2013-10-28 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 07:58:03AM +, Lars Wirzenius a écrit : > On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 09:00:20AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > > > Given how arbitrarly other bans have been proposed, I think that the > > outcome should stay private unless the banned person wishes so. > > I don't underst

Re: Should mailing list bans be published?

2013-10-28 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Ingo Jürgensmann dijo [Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 08:56:59PM +0200]: > > This led to a philosophical debate about whether bans should be made public. > > Alexander expressed concern that having them published could be harmful to a > > person's reputation, since employers will google your name and see tha

Re: DPL helpers meeting on wednesday (2013-10-23)

2013-10-28 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 20/10/13 at 17:53 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Hi, > > We will have a DPL helpers meeting on wednesday: > $ date -ud @1382547600 > Wed Oct 23 17:00:00 UTC 2013 > on #debian-dpl. Hi, Minutes: http://meetbot.debian.net/debian-dpl/2013/debian-dpl.2013-10-23-16.58.html Minutes (text): http:

Re: Should mailing list bans be published?

2013-10-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Steve Langasek writes ("Should mailing list bans be published?"): > I think we should publish them, for several reasons: I agree wholeheartedly. Also, to expand on this: > - It casts sunlight on the kinds of decisions that the listmasters are >making WRT bans, so that we collectively have o

Re: Should mailing list bans be published?

2013-10-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Russ Allbery writes ("Re: Should mailing list bans be published?"): > But, against that, I would say that the point of mailing list bans is not > to humiliate or expose someone who behaved poorly, or even to call further > attention to their poor behavior. Rather, the goal is to *stop* calling > a

Re: Should mailing list bans be published?

2013-10-28 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le samedi, 26 octobre 2013 10.46:41 Steve Langasek a écrit : > This led to a philosophical debate about whether bans should be made > public. Alexander expressed concern that having them published could > be harmful to a person's reputation, since employers will google your > name and see that you'

Re: Should mailing list bans be published?

2013-10-28 Thread Philip Hands
Hi Steve, Thanks for starting this thread. Steve Langasek writes: > On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 10:33:42PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: >> * Joey Hess: > >> > Simply obfuscating the name on the list of banned users (or not posting >> > any names at all, only links to the posts that led to the ban)

Re: Should mailing list bans be published?

2013-10-28 Thread Ingo Jürgensmann
Am 27.10.2013 um 20:46 schrieb Steve Langasek : > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 05:27:25PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: >> Bart Martens wrote: >>> I suggest we keep things civil, with respect for the persons involved. It's >>> really not up to Debian to harm someone's reputation, and that could reflect >>>