Re: Debian companies group

2013-09-04 Thread MJ Ray
On 04/09/13 16:14, Michael Meskes wrote: >> You do not found a peer group by inventing random rules meant to exclude > Please get the facts straight. A group of companies can only be build by > companies, not by random people. And somehow the entity "company" has to be > defined. Most importantly,

Re: Debian companies group

2013-09-04 Thread davidson
hi michael. tldnr: what sorts of transactions are supposed to take place on the closed debian-companies list? how will their secret-from-users nature empower users? how will their secret-from-project-members empower the debian project? On Mon, 2 Sep 2013, Michael Meskes wrote: Hi, as you may

Re: Debian companies group

2013-09-04 Thread MJ Ray
On 03/09/13 19:14, Michael Meskes wrote: > Right and we already have a debian-consultants mailing list, don't we? Yes, and that list is also struggling, so why fork it? Regards, -- MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op http://koha-community.org supporter, web a

Re: Debian companies group

2013-09-04 Thread Michael Meskes
> You do not found a peer group by inventing random rules meant to exclude Please get the facts straight. A group of companies can only be build by companies, not by random people. And somehow the entity "company" has to be defined. > people. Even less so in a Debian eco-system which is built on

Re: Debian companies group

2013-09-04 Thread Arno Töll
Hi, On 04.09.2013 15:38, Michael Meskes wrote: > There is no definitive answer for this. Let's try collecting a group first, > before getting into those details. You do not found a peer group by inventing random rules meant to exclude people. Even less so in a Debian eco-system which is built on

Re: Debian companies group

2013-09-04 Thread Michael Meskes
> I'm not sure if this is a perfect fit though. We do have many DDs that > freelance (including work with and on Debian) and they would not > qualify. Other companies might have several DDs but only <10 persons of I'm not bound to the number of 10, 5 may be enough. > staff. What if the DD is only

Re: Debian companies group

2013-09-04 Thread Guido Günther
Hi Michael, On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 04:23:31PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > Hi, > > as you may or may not know there has been talk about starting a communiy of > companies around Debian. I'd like to get things moving now and I believe the > DPL agrees. > > Let me start by answering a few questi