Re: DEP-5: query about possible inheritence of License:

2009-09-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:15:57PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > A closer reading of the DEP-5 wording clears this up for me: > However it makes for easier reading if the copyright > file lists the “main” license first: the one matching > the “top level” of the work, with others li

Re: Debian money

2009-09-13 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:25:52AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Charles Plessy writes: > > > I forsee that it is very difficult because of the hundreds of borders in > > our world, but Debian could support companies started by its developers > > to make a living of their Debian-related activities

Re: Sourceless but useless: how about ignoring some irrelevant files instead of repackaging?

2009-09-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Stefano Zacchiroli writes: > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:39:34AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: >> - Policy does not require to document the repackaging in README.source ; >>debian/copyright is the right place for this. > Yes and no. README.source guidelines from policy include this point > (p

Re: Debian money

2009-09-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Sune Vuorela writes: > On 2009-09-09, Steve McIntyre wrote: >>c marketing to new developers: posters to put up at universities? >> T-shirts or other gifts for new people working on bug-fixes, >> translations etc.? Could be useful, but again expensive. >> Thoughts? > I have so

Re: Debian money

2009-09-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Charles Plessy writes: > I forsee that it is very difficult because of the hundreds of borders in > our world, but Debian could support companies started by its developers > to make a living of their Debian-related activities, by contributing to > their capital. This way, Debian would invest in

Re: Sourceless but useless: how about ignoring some irrelevant files instead of repackaging?

2009-09-13 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:39:34AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > I would like to hear some comments about the following. Since the git > repositories contain all the history, if a non-free file slips in and > is discovered after many commits were made, it will be a pain to > extirpate it. For the

Re: Sourceless but useless: how about ignoring some irrelevant files instead of repackaging?

2009-09-13 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:39:34AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > - Policy does not require to document the repackaging in README.source ; >debian/copyright is the right place for this. Yes and no. README.source guidelines from policy include this point (policy §4.14): 4. Optionally, doc

Re: Sourceless but useless: how about ignoring some irrelevant files instead of repackaging?

2009-09-13 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear all, here is a tentative summary of the thread, followed by my personnal contribution. The original question is whether we should allow the package maintainers to ignore some non-DFSG-free (but legally redistributable) files in our source packages if we can build binary package without them,

Re: Debian money

2009-09-13 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 05:49:18PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Hello Steve and everybody, > > I forsee that it is very difficult because of the hundreds of borders in our > world, but Debian could support companies started by its developers to make a > living of their Debian-related activities,

Re: Debian money

2009-09-13 Thread Luk Claes
Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2009-09-09, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> 1 New hardware / equipment >> >>a The DSA team have a wishlist of new hardware they'd like, along >> with a set of donated machines that need configuring and/or >> shipping. As far as I'm concerned, so long as the individ

Re: Debian money

2009-09-13 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-09-09, Steve McIntyre wrote: > 1 New hardware / equipment > >a The DSA team have a wishlist of new hardware they'd like, along > with a set of donated machines that need configuring and/or > shipping. As far as I'm concerned, so long as the individual > requests here lo

Debian Booths (was: Debian money)

2009-09-13 Thread Joey Schulze
Jan Hauke Rahm wrote: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 05:04:42PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > > * Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt [2009-09-10 16:01]: > > > Steve McIntyre writes: > > > > 4 Marketing stuff: > > > >a box(es) of equipment to take to stands at various shows and > > > > expos. Might be usefu

Re: Debian money

2009-09-13 Thread Charles Plessy
Hello Steve and everybody, I forsee that it is very difficult because of the hundreds of borders in our world, but Debian could support companies started by its developers to make a living of their Debian-related activities, by contributing to their capital. This way, Debian would invest in its ow

Re: Debian money

2009-09-13 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 05:04:42PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > * Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt [2009-09-10 16:01]: > > Steve McIntyre writes: > > > 4 Marketing stuff: > > >a box(es) of equipment to take to stands at various shows and > > > expos. Might be useful, but could be expensive. Where d

Re: Distributing software written by hostile upstream developers

2009-09-13 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 01:16:38PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 00:12:18 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > > Thoughts? > > > I'm very much in favour of something like this. Debian is better off > without schilyware imo. it's sadly not only about shilly. Some tuomoware i