Bernd Zeimetz writes:
> As long as it is (partly?) based on the fact that bugs will be fixed by
> Debian for free so Ubuntu can just reuse the bugfixes and get the money
> for them, I think it should be discussed.
People keep saying things like this, but no one I know who's running
Ubuntu is pay
Le samedi 08 août 2009 à 15:45 +, Philipp Kern a écrit :
> And no, it's not the missing byte-compilation that triggers the failure but
> the
> missing symlink farm that's usually processed by a trigger at the end of the
> installation run.
The symlink farm is created in the postinst of each p
Philipp Kern wrote:
> I think there were at least two things (I think not check them, but from
> memory
> what Matthias told me):
>
> * python-support breaks upstream assumptions about relative imports.
> * python-support does not always have stable symlink handling, i.e. they
>should may
Mark Shuttleworth dijo [Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 07:37:04AM +0100]:
> (...)
> It would be substantially easier to collaborate on RC (and non-RC) bug
> fixes where the base versions of major components were the same.
Umm... Real, hard RC bugs will be present on more than one release of
the same upstrea
Tollef Fog Heen dijo [Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 08:37:38AM +0200]:
> I'm packaging yubikey-personalization, a tool used to set the crypto
> keys for Yubikeys, which are OTP hardware tokens. The tool is useless
> without a token, so I'm wondering if I should put a reference into the
> description for wh
Frank Bauer dijo [Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 07:49:14AM +0200]:
> Hi,
>
> today I have been lingering in the realms of /etc examining the files
> breaking the tradition
> of using small letters in filenames (ConsoleKit, GeoIP.conf.default,
> NetworkManager, etc.).
>
> This advertisement is contained in
On 2009-08-08, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> AFAICT, the real problem is that after unpack many python modules do not
>> work as they use symlink hackery in the postinst.
> What do you mean exactly? Could you point me to an example?
> The only problem I see is that it starts to become complicated as soo
Luk Claes wrote:
> AFAIK python-central does have the necessary tools to clean up.
As soon as you use the 'nomove' option it fails to do so properly. Unfortunately
a lot of packages were introduced with this option.
>>> AFAICS
>>> that was already communicated in February [0] and was only reall
On 2009-08-08, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> Wrong. Several people tried to contact Matthias on various ways and never got
> a
> reply. He also completely failed to communicate with those people who maintain
> most Python related packages on Debian, except during Debconf. This is *NOT*
> the
> way how
Le samedi 08 août 2009 à 16:14 +0200, Luk Claes a écrit :
> AFAICT, the real problem is that after unpack many python modules do not
> work as they use symlink hackery in the postinst.
This hasn’t been an issue in real-world cases for quite some time
(python-support 0.8, and an even older version
Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> To come back to Debian
>
> Luk Claes wrote:
>> Hmm, AFAICT python2.6 did not really happen in Debian yet because
>> Mathias is trying to not continue with the existing hacks that have
>> major issues when upgrading and wants to have a clean solution.
>
> The only hack i
To come back to Debian
Luk Claes wrote:
> Hmm, AFAICT python2.6 did not really happen in Debian yet because
> Mathias is trying to not continue with the existing hacks that have
> major issues when upgrading and wants to have a clean solution.
The only hack is the broken piece of python-centr
Luk Claes wrote:
> Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> Sandro Tosi wrote:
>>
>>> what can happen is that he prepare a rough solution, sent to debian in
>>> a sense "hey, take it, I've done my work, it's an ugly hack but I have
>>> no time to prepare an elegant solution; Now I got to go, I have
>>> another 1000
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 09:34:39PM +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 20:07, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 06:40:06PM +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> >> THEY STEAL our packages
> >
> > Uarg. That sentence let me discard everything sensible/intelligent
Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> Sandro Tosi wrote:
>
>> what can happen is that he prepare a rough solution, sent to debian in
>> a sense "hey, take it, I've done my work, it's an ugly hack but I have
>> no time to prepare an elegant solution; Now I got to go, I have
>> another 1000 things to do". I'm not
Sandro Tosi wrote:
> what can happen is that he prepare a rough solution, sent to debian in
> a sense "hey, take it, I've done my work, it's an ugly hack but I have
> no time to prepare an elegant solution; Now I got to go, I have
> another 1000 things to do". I'm not sure it will happen, but I fe
Michael Banck wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:55:36AM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:38:56 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>
>>> How does Ubuntu want to do a proper (commercial) support for their packages
>>> if
>>> they don't even have the time/manpower to take care o
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> ]] Matthew Johnson
>
> | We would need a licence which allowed it to be redistributed by Debian
> | and used by all of our users. The reference for this is Debian Policy
> | 2.2.3 and 2.3:
>
> We need the redistribution bit, I don't think we need it
On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 03:03:40AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Rein Tendonsie writes:
>
> > Beste,
> >
> >
> > Momenteel heb ik een dedicated server genomen ergens en men
> > zegt er dat ze geen Debian willen instaleren omdat deze niet zou werken
> > omwillen van de processor.
> >
]] Ben Finney
| I think that's a job, not for the Debian package information, but for
| the project's home page. The package description should give enough
| information for the reader to understand whether they want the package
| on their system.
Noted. (As I'm divided on whether to add the in
Tollef Fog Heen writes:
> I'm packaging yubikey-personalization, a tool used to set the crypto
> keys for Yubikeys, which are OTP hardware tokens. The tool is useless
> without a token, so I'm wondering if I should put a reference into the
> description for where people can read more about the t
Hi,
On Samstag, 8. August 2009, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> Does people think that would be too much? I'm divided on the issue --
> on one hand, I don't want Debian to end up plastered with ads, on the
> other hand, the tool is not useful without a token, so pointing people
> to where they can get o
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Frank Bauer schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> today I have been lingering in the realms of /etc examining the files
> breaking the tradition
> of using small letters in filenames (ConsoleKit, GeoIP.conf.default,
> NetworkManager, etc.).
>
> This advertisement is co
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