On Sunday 15 March 2009, m...@iglou.com wrote:
> In the future, it would be very, very, very, very, very nice if there
> was an install option to install/reinstall Grub. Currently, the
> install process will not install/reinstall Grub without having the core
> packages installed first. I am using
Matthew Johnson writes:
> On Sat Mar 14 12:46, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> We can certainly expand the definition of technical work that qualifies
>> for political voting membership and not focus it solely on packaging,
>> but I think we're doing reasonably well with the basic assumption that
>> the p
Greetings!
I am running Debian on an i386 machine with a dual boot: "Production,"
which is the stable release, and "Test," which is pointed to a mix of the
stable & test repositories. In the past, when a new version is released,
I always install it fresh into the Test "region" first to test it o
Russ Allbery writes:
> Matthew Johnson writes:
>
> > - To decouple of technical and political positions in the membership
>
> For what it's worth, I disagree with this goal, assuming that I
> understand what you mean by it. I think that such a decoupling would
> be a significant change in how
On Sat Mar 14 19:11, Thomas Viehmann wrote:
> if you allow me to share a thought here even though I am not a developer
> and as such do not have any say in this.
I certainly welcome thoughts from people involved in the project.
> While the aims you list themself may be laudable to achieve
> impro
On Sat Mar 14 12:46, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > - To decouple of technical and political positions in the membership
>
> We can certainly expand the definition of technical work that qualifies
> for political voting membership and not focus it solely on packaging, but
> I think we're doing reasonably
On Sat Mar 14 17:24, Enrico Zini wrote:
> However, we have had and do have several uncontroversially outstanding
> and very active people in need of an account, and they should be kicked
> *in*, and fast. As an AM I've seen a few, and inflicting a long NM
> process on them is a waste: their skil
* Micah Anderson:
> There are some companies that have had their 'bottom-line' demonstrably
> impacted in significant ways by open source and have undertaken various
> dubious mechanisms to destabilize and discredit open-source. Microsoft
> actually acknowledged to the SEC[0] in its required filin
Bernd Zeimetz writes:
> Micah Anderson wrote:
>> All of this is just fun wingnut ramblings, but I think serves to
>> illustrate that the artificial barrier imposed by the arduous NM
>> process is not that significant of a difficulty for getting inside
>> Debian and we cannot use this as mechanism
Matthew Johnson writes:
> My goals with changing the membership procedures are:
[...]
> - To decouple of technical and political positions in the membership
For what it's worth, I disagree with this goal, assuming that I understand
what you mean by it. I think that such a decoupling would be
On 14/03/09 at 19:11 +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> if you allow me to share a thought here even though I am not a developer
> and as such do not have any say in this.
>
> Matthew Johnson wrote:
> > My goals with changing the membership procedures are:
> [... snip ...]
>
> While the aim
Hi,
if you allow me to share a thought here even though I am not a developer
and as such do not have any say in this.
Matthew Johnson wrote:
> My goals with changing the membership procedures are:
[... snip ...]
While the aims you list themself may be laudable to achieve
improvements, your *goal
Micah Anderson wrote:
> All of this is just fun wingnut ramblings, but I think serves to
> illustrate that the artificial barrier imposed by the arduous NM process
> is not that significant of a difficulty for getting inside Debian and we
> cannot use this as mechanism for making Debian "secure".
On Saturday 14 March 2009, Enrico Zini wrote:
> Yes, and there are cheaper ways than getting the black hat to become a
> full DD: with a thousand of DDs we have a thousand possibly vulnerable
> points of entry. Frankly, if anyone wanted to attack Debian, they'd
> have to be remarkably silly to pla
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 04:25:21PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Saturday 14 March 2009, Micah Anderson wrote:
> > All of this is just fun wingnut ramblings, but I think serves to
> > illustrate that the artificial barrier imposed by the arduous NM
> > process is not that significant of a difficulty
On Saturday 14 March 2009, Micah Anderson wrote:
> All of this is just fun wingnut ramblings, but I think serves to
> illustrate that the artificial barrier imposed by the arduous NM
> process is not that significant of a difficulty for getting inside
> Debian and we cannot use this as mechanism fo
* Frans Pop [2009-03-14 09:25-0400]:
> On Saturday 14 March 2009, Leo 'costela' Antunes wrote:
> > IMHO that's a false notion of "security through laziness" :).
>
> Black hats are lazy too. They go after easy targets for maximum profit.
> Getting into Debian currently takes a certain amount of de
[still not subscribed to -newmaint, just keeping the cross-post]
Frans Pop wrote:
> On Saturday 14 March 2009, Leo 'costela' Antunes wrote:
>> IMHO that's a false notion of "security through laziness" :).
>
> Black hats are lazy too. They go after easy targets for maximum profit.
> Getting into D
On Saturday 14 March 2009, Leo 'costela' Antunes wrote:
> IMHO that's a false notion of "security through laziness" :).
Black hats are lazy too. They go after easy targets for maximum profit.
Getting into Debian currently takes a certain amount of demonstrated
dedication to the project through ac
[I'm only subscribed to -project, but keeping the cross-post]
Frans Pop wrote:
> The effort needed to go through the NM procedure also has an IMO import
> security aspect: it's quite unlikely that a "black hat" would be willing
> to make that effort to get in a position where (s)he could introdu
On Saturday 14 March 2009, Matthew Johnson wrote:
> Being part of the project, particularly with upload rights, is
> something I believe _should_ be difficult. This restriction on access
> to the archive is one of our strengths, it gives us a higher quality of
> packaging (yes, there are exceptions
While we were still working on Lenny, Joerg proposed [0] changing what sort of
membership the project has. This was postponed [1] until after Lenny was
released, which it now has. Since I have also suggested something similar in
the past [2], I'm quite interested in this and so this email is intend
With the upload of debian-maintainers version 1.54, the following
changes to the keyring have been made:
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Full name: Kęstutis Biliūnas
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