Re: A bit of history

2007-06-13 Thread Nick Phillips
On 13/06/2007, at 8:35 PM, Linas Žvirblis wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: I guess that depends on what you consider "joined". You might also consider your first posting to a Debian mailing list. Or possible, your first contribution (e.g., b

Re: A bit of history

2007-06-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:35:25 +0300, Linas Žvirblis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: >> I guess that depends on what you consider "joined". You might also >> consider your first posting to a Debian mailing list. Or possible, >> your first contribution (e.g., bug submission o

Re: A bit of history

2007-06-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:01:47 +1000, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 11:09:19AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: >> So, I suspsect that I crafted the modemu changelog manually and had >> either a braino or a typo. > Common in those days, ISTR. It predates dch (from de

Re: Social committee proposal

2007-06-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:11:42 +0200 (CEST), Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Andreas Barth wrote: >> every years for a two years time (and doing the elections at the same >> time as the DPL)? > I think only voting in he same ballot will find wide acceptance > amongst

Re: Range Voting - the simpler better alternative to Condorcetvoting

2007-06-13 Thread Barak A. Pearlmutter
> Given that almost all of the publicly reported problems with ballot > validity I've seen have been due to getting the PGP signing wrong > ... I find this conclusion highly dubious. Good point; you're probably right. I did modify Smith's presentation to textually separate the factual information

Re: Range Voting - the simpler better alternative to Condorcetvoting

2007-06-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Barak A Pearlmutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In the above analysis of the 2003 DPL election, Smith notes: > 200 votes were rejected as invalid versus 510 accepted as valid, > even after 5 years of experience and the best software developers in > the world voting and programming > He t

Re: Range Voting - the simpler better alternative to Condorcetvoting

2007-06-13 Thread Barak A. Pearlmutter
You make some interesting points. > I'm curious here: > a.) Can you give any example of any election we've had so far that > has resulted in an outcome not expected by the voters (that is based > on the cast votes, not based on predictions) I'm not sure if this fits your criterion, but according

Re: A bit of history

2007-06-13 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 11:35:25AM +0300, Linas ??virblis wrote: > I would define it like this: > > 1. Started using - the moment one installed his/her first Debian system. > 2. Joined community - first post to the mailing list; most probably >asking for advice or providing advice to somebody

Re: A bit of history

2007-06-13 Thread Dale E. Martin
> It's amazing how little things like dch (and all of devscripts in fact) > make maintaining packages so much easier. Our newer maintainers might be > horrified to hear that we didn't have build-depends back then; the dpkg > changelog shows they were added Christmas day (!) 1999. And apt was only >

Re: A bit of history

2007-06-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 11:09:19AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > So, I suspsect that I crafted the modemu changelog manually and had either a > braino or a typo. Common in those days, ISTR. It predates dch (from devscripts); I think the only alternative was the changelog mode for emacs. It's am

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Re: A bit of history

2007-06-13 Thread Linas Žvirblis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > I guess that depends on what you consider "joined". You might also > consider your first posting to a Debian mailing list. Or possible, your > first contribution (e.g., bug submission or patch submission). I would define