Re: Planning for software upgrade

2007-03-29 Thread Andreas Tille
[Open Source Asia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> list in CC] On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are a department, Office of the Government Chief Information Officer (OGCIO) of Hong Kong Special Administrative Region Government (HKSARG). We are reviewing our inventory and see if we can upgrade

Planning for software upgrade

2007-03-29 Thread mclwong
We are a department, Office of the Government Chief Information Officer (OGCIO) of Hong Kong Special Administrative Region Government (HKSARG). We are reviewing our inventory and see if we can upgrade or dump the software as below. Debian GNU Linux 2.1 Grateful if you could advise: Is it po

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther

2007-03-29 Thread Brian May
> "Sven" == Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Sven> Debian has fallen very low indeed ... Debian's fallen so low it is no longer worthy of you. Find a better project. One that respects you, instead of one that is constantly attacking you. -- Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-29 Thread Brian May
> "Sven" == Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Sven> But this is Debian, not life, and we are all here because we Sven> share something great and good, and thus i expected better. Yes, This is Debian. Yes, we haven't met your expectations. I am sure you are not alone here. Consid

Re: Versao rc2 Testing - Servidores

2007-03-29 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To debian-project: Jorge is asking about the status of RC2, I'm explaining to him about -project and trying to give him some information about the planned release schedule. Jorge, Antes de mais nada, a debian-project

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-29 Thread MJ Ray
Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10973 March 1977, MJ Ray wrote: > > Anyway, this may be different for more well-respected DDs, but IIRC, > > I've received no reply from DAMs to any emails in years. I don't see > > how to develop something acceptable with no feedback channel. > > What

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 03:24:12PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 08:13:17PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:20:42AM -0700, Richard Hecker wrote: > > > On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 07:07 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > > > .. > > > > > > > I would have

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-29 Thread Richard Hecker
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 19:27 +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2007-03-29, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you deny that rejection is an act of hate ? > > I do. > Obviously, I do too! > Rejection is many things that in many cases is not hate. It might be > dislikement, it might be la

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-29 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2007-03-29, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you deny that rejection is an act of hate ? I do. Rejection is many things that in many cases is not hate. It might be dislikement, it might be lack of skills or just bad communication. None of these is what I would consider hate. /Sune

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-29 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 08:13:17PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:20:42AM -0700, Richard Hecker wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 07:07 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > .. > > > > > I would have gladly accepted any decisio

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther

2007-03-29 Thread Mike Bird
On Thursday 29 March 2007 09:51, Sven Luther wrote: > Debian has fallen very low indeed ... A few people currently in power are not Debian. Hopefully Debian will elect a less divisive leader in the current election. Assuming I had any influence in such matters, should I work towards stopping Bus

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-29 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10973 March 1977, MJ Ray wrote: > Anyway, this may be different for more well-respected DDs, but IIRC, > I've received no reply from DAMs to any emails in years. I don't see > how to develop something acceptable with no feedback channel. What emails? Sent where? With what name? Looking into t

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:20:42AM -0700, Richard Hecker wrote: > On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 07:07 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > .. > > > I would have gladly accepted any decision, provided it was a fair one, but > > this one-sidedness is what caused all of this. > > > One big problem here is the

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-29 Thread Richard Hecker
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 07:07 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: .. > I would have gladly accepted any decision, provided it was a fair one, but > this one-sidedness is what caused all of this. > One big problem here is the way you define "fair" in this context. There are many other DDs unwilling to ac

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther

2007-03-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 05:47:03PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > > > This is very interesting, so you mean, it is impossible to have one > > > > thread on > > > > which one is very passionate, and post a lot, and then all the other > > > > mailing > > > > lists where one pos

Versao rc2 Testing - Servidores

2007-03-29 Thread Jorge Antonio Macedo de Mello
Gostaria de saber qual a situação da versão rc2 (testing) citada fizemos alguns testes com a versão stable e esta não atendeu a todas as nossas demandas. A rc2 atendeu. Precisamos tomar uma decisão para instalaçao em servidores de missao critica. Nossos testes foram realizados com o instalador d

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-29 Thread MJ Ray
"Chris Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] Much as I'd like to yell, > scream, shout, beat down doors, and talk sense into those people - > well, I can't. [...] Well, you can. I think you just decided that the costs of doing so outweigh the benefits: retaliation or arrest or whatever.