Problema com o Debian Etch

2007-03-24 Thread Evandro Pires da Silva
Senhores, tenho um problema besta, mas gostaria de saber como resolver. minha placa mãe é p5nsli (ASUS) e o audio no painel frontal não funiona (obvio que somente no painel traseiro). Mas no Windows funciona tanto o frontal quanto o traseiro. Como posso resolver. Grato desde já. Evandro Pires da

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 03:33:40AM +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun Mar 25, 2007 at 01:24:39 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > > Read the Debian mailing list archives and you will find some of the related > > personal atacks. > > I asked for references, but you seem not to be

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Sun Mar 25, 2007 at 01:24:39 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I asked you to point me to those "published personal attacks" and i did > > > not ask you about your personal opinion about Mr. Bloch. > > > > > > Read what i wrote you, an

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I asked you to point me to those "published personal attacks" and i did > > not ask you about your personal opinion about Mr. Bloch. > > > > Read what i wrote you, and then speak again! > > As Mr. Schilling answered all the other mails in this t

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Sat Mar 24, 2007 at 17:44:53 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Hi, > > I asked you to point me to those "published personal attacks" and i did > not ask you about your personal opinion about Mr. Bloch. > > Read what i wrote you, and then speak again! As Mr. Schilling answered all th

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The GPL is known to be asymmetric (which is a problem) and even the founder > > of Debian does not follow your strange ideas on interpreting the GPL. > > > > http://ianmurdock.com/?p=278 > > > > (see 3rd paragraph) > > > Umm, Ian Murdock had

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 10:51:04PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I do not have the unlimited time to waste with useless speudo > discussions. I am sorry, but this will be the last response to you > unless you start to open your mind to the realit

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Clint Adams
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 05:13:04PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > They are not my guidelines. I imagine that the list guidelines and code > of conduct were thouroughly vetted. However, I have not been around > long enough to know. Perhaps someone who has been around longer can say > for sure

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do not have the unlimited time to waste with useless speudo discussions. I am sorry, but this will be the last response to you unless you start to open your mind to the reality. For the same reason. this reply is shortened. > > - dozens of unfixe

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10968 March 1977, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > >> Or does you not answering the arguments in my mails from shortly before > >> we did the fork simply show that you do not have anything to reply to > >> them, as there simply isnt anything valid against th

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 09:00:20PM +0100, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I guess you missed Aurelien's mail [0]? What about the other distros? > > > > > > Mail not addressed to me is send py people who are not interested

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 02:08:10PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > Distors are often viewed as mere packagers, but they tend to drive > upstream development in variety of ways. Here's just a few of Debian's > contributions to the world of FLOSS during 2006: > > * creation of cdrkit, a fork of

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 09:00:20PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I guess you missed Aurelien's mail [0]? What about the other distros? > > > > > > Mail not addressed to me is send py people who are not interested > > > in an answer f

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10968 March 1977, Joerg Schilling wrote: >> Or does you not answering the arguments in my mails from shortly before >> we did the fork simply show that you do not have anything to reply to >> them, as there simply isnt anything valid against them? Instead you >> simply told me I am a liar and s

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 11:07:34AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > Please forgive me for feeding the troll. No. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10968 March 1977, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > There is no need to refute obviously wrong claims from Mr. Bloch. > > If you believe his wrong claims, it seems that I cannot help you anyway. > > As you always and only hit on Eduard - does that mean my

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Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I guess you missed Aurelien's mail [0]? What about the other distros? > > > > Mail not addressed to me is send py people who are not interested > > in an answer from me. > > > The Code of Conduct for the Debian lists indicates that CCs ar

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 08:23:33PM +0100, Nico Golde wrote: > > C'mon, you and almost everyone who replied to this thread > Cc'ed Joerg so this should not be the point. I (and I imagine others) have CC'd Joerg since he has done so. To me, if someone CC's people it indicates that he wants a CC h

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-03-24 20:10]: > On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 06:53:43PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mail not addressed to me is send py people who are not interested > > in an answer from me. > > > The Code

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10968 March 1977, Joerg Schilling wrote: > There is no need to refute obviously wrong claims from Mr. Bloch. > If you believe his wrong claims, it seems that I cannot help you anyway. As you always and only hit on Eduard - does that mean my claims aren't wrong? Or does you not answering the

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 06:53:43PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > - the fact that other Debian maintainers does not try to > > > find a workaround for the problems caused by some outcasts > > > causes damage to the reputation of the Debia

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - the fact that other Debian maintainers does not try to > > find a workaround for the problems caused by some outcasts > > causes damage to the reputation of the Debian project. > > > I guess you missed Aurelien's mail [0]? What about

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Martin Zobel-Helas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070324 17:45]: > Read what i wrote you, and then speak again! or rather not. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Sam Morris
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 16:40:34 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > This fork harms the users of Debian in at least two ways: > > - the fork does not work decently and thus annoyes them I am a Debian user. cdrkit certainly *does* work decently. Far better than cdrecord, which only manages to comp

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat Mar 24, 2007 at 16:40:34 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > Also note that I am not attacking people but only trying to inform about > > the > > truth while Mr. Bloch is constantly publishing personal attacks. > > Please point us to

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Sat Mar 24, 2007 at 17:28:36 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Sat Mar 24, 2007 at 16:40:34 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > Also note that I am not attacking people but only trying to inform about > > > the > > > trut

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 04:40:34PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Joerg, as a piece of friendly advice, I think it would be wise to drop > > it. You continue to do your reputation harm by going around making this > > claim. Does Debian's fork

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Sat Mar 24, 2007 at 16:40:34 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Also note that I am not attacking people but only trying to inform about the > truth while Mr. Bloch is constantly publishing personal attacks. Please point us to those. I couldn't find those, only technical base stuff with wel

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Note that the license change was definitely not the reason for the fork > > (the > > fork would have been done in a different way if the license change was the > > reason). > > And again wrong, your license change *IS* the reason, we simply do not >

Re: so what can we do to voice our support? (Re: video codecs in HTML 5)

2007-03-24 Thread Maik Merten
Holger Levsen schrieb: > First of all, thanks to Maik for bringing this up here! Well, I'm a user of free software so this topic is in my very interest ;) I totally missed you already brought this to the project mailing list - I fired another mail to debian-project before noticing that. Sorry for

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You are not talking about a notable contribution but about a notable > > damage to FLOSS caused by people who are unwilling to cooperate in a useful > > way. > > > Joerg, as a piece of friendly advice, I think it would be wise to drop > it. You

in HTML5 and codec patents

2007-03-24 Thread Maik Merten
Hello, I already brought this topic to the developer list, but I have been told that this would be the better list for "political" things. My original posting is http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/03/msg00559.html To summarize the topic: The WHATWG ( http://www.whatwg.org - that's mostly

so what can we do to voice our support? (Re: video codecs in HTML 5)

2007-03-24 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, added -project to to: as its more appropriate there :) On Friday 23 March 2007 18:26, Steve Greenland wrote: > That's all true, but if the standard requires (or recommends) MPEG4 > support, then that's what everyone will use, and we'll be screwed, > again. If we (the Free Software community)

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10968 March 1977, Joerg Schilling wrote: >>* creation of cdrkit, a fork of cdrtools, due to a change of licence >>which happened to be DFSG-incompatible > Note that there was a licence change with cdrtools but this was a change > towards more freedom and the current official cdrtools are of c

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
Please forgive me for feeding the troll. On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 03:20:31PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > >Distors are often viewed as mere packagers, but they tend to drive > >upstream development in variety of ways. Here's just a few of Debian's > >contributions to the world of FLOSS durin

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Joerg Schilling a écrit : >> Distors are often viewed as mere packagers, but they tend to drive >> upstream development in variety of ways. Here's just a few of Debian's >> contributions to the world of FLOSS during 2006: > >> * creation of cdrkit, a fork of cdrtools, due to a change of licence >>

Re: notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
>Distors are often viewed as mere packagers, but they tend to drive >upstream development in variety of ways. Here's just a few of Debian's >contributions to the world of FLOSS during 2006: >* creation of cdrkit, a fork of cdrtools, due to a change of licence >which happened to be DFSG-incompatib

notable Debian contributions in 2006

2007-03-24 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Distors are often viewed as mere packagers, but they tend to drive upstream development in variety of ways. Here's just a few of Debian's contributions to the world of FLOSS during 2006: * creation of cdrkit, a fork of cdrtools, due to a change of licence which happened to be DFSG-incompatible *