Re: Q

2006-10-10 Thread Michael Labowicz
Short answer: Depends on the hardware that's in your box, but I would assume a P3 should have more than enough horsepower for a basic desktop install.Long answer: the best way to check would be to try installing it, if that's not an option, consult somthing like: http://www.debian.org/releases/sta

Q

2006-10-10 Thread Sleepy Gomez
I have a computer (Dell pentium 3, for windows 2000 prof, windows 98, and windows nt4.0) that is completely clean, no windows, no nothing. Can I put Debian on this machine with nothing else and will it work? I suppose I will need to add an e-mail program. Many thanks SLEEPY -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: Proposal: SPI as international money transfer service

2006-10-10 Thread Gunnar Wolf
mmlacak dijo [Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 06:27:12PM -0400]: > >FWIW: I don't think SPI should become an international bank. Nor do > >I believe that SPI has the resources to do so. > > That wasn't my original proposal either. I pretty much clumsy titled it > "international money transfer service", whi

Re: Using money to fund real Debian work

2006-10-10 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Thibaut VARENE said: > It's obvious "giving" money will affect someone's behaviour (allowing > him/her to work full time on a project, for instance). And as action > induces reaction, the moment there's someone which is given money, > there will be two class of peoples:

Re: Using money to fund real Debian work

2006-10-10 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Denis Barbier said: > On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 03:53:34PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 08:50:39PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 09:22:04PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez > > > wrote: [...] > > > > The strange thing i

Re: Using money to fund real Debian work

2006-10-10 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006, Thibaut VARENE wrote: > It's obvious "giving" money will affect someone's behaviour (allowing > him/her to work full time on a project, for instance). And as action > induces reaction, the moment there's someone which is given money, > there will be two class of peoples: the on

Re: Using money to fund real Debian work

2006-10-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In the introduction of our Constitution: > The Debian Project is an association of individuals who have made > common cause to create a free operating system[*]. > I first did not notice the footnote > [*] ... and find a job in the IT industry.

Re: Using money to fund real Debian work

2006-10-10 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 10:14:16PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > > > > > > Program runs successfully here after dropping the 'assert (tine == > > > money);' > > > statement. > > > > Huh? I hate to be the one to break it to you, but many things life > > boil down to a question of time or money.

Re: Using money to fund real Debian work

2006-10-10 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 09:41:28PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 01:14:05PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > [...] > > Would I love to get paid to my work on Debian? Sure, who wouldn't? > > But, is it going to make me quit if someone else working on something > > for Debi

Re: Using money to fund real Debian work

2006-10-10 Thread Denis Barbier
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 03:53:34PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 08:50:39PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 09:22:04PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > [...] > > > The strange thing is that while I see lots of discussion about why > > > peopl

Re: Using money to fund real Debian work

2006-10-10 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 08:50:39PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 09:22:04PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > [...] > > The strange thing is that while I see lots of discussion about why > > people should or should not be allowed to fund particular developers to > > do part

Re: Using money to fund real Debian work

2006-10-10 Thread Denis Barbier
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 01:14:05PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: [...] > Would I love to get paid to my work on Debian? Sure, who wouldn't? > But, is it going to make me quit if someone else working on something > for Debian gets paid to do it? Nope. I would submit that people who > consider

Re: Using money to fund real Debian work

2006-10-10 Thread Denis Barbier
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 09:22:04PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: [...] > The strange thing is that while I see lots of discussion about why > people should or should not be allowed to fund particular developers to > do particular things, I don't see any similar discussion about why > people shou

Re: Using money to fund real Debian work

2006-10-10 Thread Guido Heumann
MJ Ray schrieb: > Can we leave the sanity attacks out of it, please? It's unhelpful to > suggest that all the people with concerns about this experiment have > personality problems. > > Are the attacks on people because there are no good answers to the > concerns of Martin Schulze and others?

Re: Proposal: SPI as international money transfer service

2006-10-10 Thread mmlacak
Martin Schulze wrote: mmlacak wrote: So, my question is: can we make SPI ( http://www.spi-inc.org/, http://www.debian.org/donations ) into monetary service which accepts from and is able to transfer money to any country in the world? Is able to deliver money basically from door to doo

Re: Using money to fund real Debian work

2006-10-10 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 09:40:40AM +0200, Thibaut VARENE wrote: > > In my view, if I were involved in a given project, giving it a good > part of my free (unpaid) time, and I were to see some other guy > working on this very same project doing the same work I'm doing, I > guess I wouldn't feel ter

Re: Using money to fund real Debian work

2006-10-10 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 08:37:32AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] I would submit that people who > > consider quitting or actually quit over something like that probably > > have other issues to deal with. > > Can we leave the sanity attacks out of

Re: Using money to fund real Debian work

2006-10-10 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 12:00:12AM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote: > Le lundi 09 octobre 2006 18:54, Martin Schulze a écrit : > > > hard on getting Debian better be funded similarily? I know that > > several people have lost their motivation to work on Debian as before > > (yes, others will hate me f

Re: Using money to fund real Debian work

2006-10-10 Thread Jérôme Marant
Le lundi 09 octobre 2006 18:54, Martin Schulze a écrit : > hard on getting Debian better be funded similarily? I know that > several people have lost their motivation to work on Debian as before > (yes, others will hate me for writing this again) because of this. > Some developers ask themselves

Re: Using money to fund real Debian work

2006-10-10 Thread David Weinehall
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 09:40:40AM +0200, Thibaut VARENE wrote: > On 10/8/06, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >This is not related: > >- known developers are not necessarily bad developers > >- technically good developers are not necessarily unknown > > These are extremely bold assump

Re: Using money to fund real Debian work

2006-10-10 Thread Thibaut VARENE
On 10/8/06, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is not related: - known developers are not necessarily bad developers - technically good developers are not necessarily unknown These are extremely bold assumptions, stated as if they were facts. Cunning. And here comes the well known

Re: Using money to fund real Debian work

2006-10-10 Thread MJ Ray
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] I would submit that people who > consider quitting or actually quit over something like that probably > have other issues to deal with. Can we leave the sanity attacks out of it, please? It's unhelpful to suggest that all the people with co