Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-30 Thread Hubert Chan
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:47:33 +0200, Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > * Hubert Chan [Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:09:26 -0400]: >> Not having used the DELAYED queue before, is it possible for the >> maintainer to reject an upload without making their own upload? >> e.g. if the NMU is broken, but i

Re: Please accept packages to proposed-updates

2006-07-30 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 07:19:41AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > (updates handled by the SRM team) > > > Not checked too. > > We have a nice backlog. We go as fast as possible, but are currently > > slowed down because some stuff depends on ftp-master will. > > > Is there some reason for not

Re: NMUs and (auto-)subscription to the PTS

2006-07-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 06:35:57AM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Anthony Towns [Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:29:57 +1000]: > > > subscribe to the PTS > > ISTR a discussion about automatically subscribing NMUers to the PTS for > the package, and dropping the subscription with the next upload of the > pac

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-30 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Hubert Chan [Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:09:26 -0400]: > Not having used the DELAYED queue before, is it possible for the > maintainer to reject an upload without making their own upload? > e.g. if the NMU is broken, but it will take me more than a week to test > a proper fix. Or if I decide that the

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-30 Thread Hubert Chan
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:29:57 +1000, Anthony Towns said: > The point of the delayed queue is so that you don't have to remember > to act if the maintainer doesn't respond. That can be pretty > difficult, it's easy to remember to do something if the maintainer > *does* respond -- you get a cue in t

Re: NMUs and (auto-)subscription to the PTS

2006-07-30 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 06:35:57AM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Anthony Towns [Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:29:57 +1000]: > > > subscribe to the PTS > > ISTR a discussion about automatically subscribing NMUers to the PTS for > the package, and dropping the subscription with the next upload of the > pac

NMUs and (auto-)subscription to the PTS

2006-07-30 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Anthony Towns [Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:29:57 +1000]: > subscribe to the PTS ISTR a discussion about automatically subscribing NMUers to the PTS for the package, and dropping the subscription with the next upload of the package (be it a maintainer upload or not). I'd be interesting in hearing opini

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-30 Thread Hubert Chan
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:51:45 +0900, Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hi, >> > Do you have a rough overview (maybe from your ubuntu experience) >> which > (types of) packages will be affected? >> >> An example might be adding support to wacom-tools to automatically >> configure a device

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-30 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 10:04:09AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > I think I would prefer: > > 1. Create patch > > 2. Send patch to BTS (with intent to NMU notice) > 3. Give time for maintainer to respond > > 4. Upload to N-day delayed queue (where N can be determined based on > >sev

Re: Debian's birthday, 16th of august

2006-07-30 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/30/2006 11:08 AM, José Parrella wrote: > Geert Stappers escribió: > >>I hope that the idea gets a world-wide follow-up. > > 11 cities in Venezuela will celebrate Debian's Anniversary with local > events featuring advanced talks about Debian app

Re: package ownership in Debian

2006-07-30 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 02:49:34AM +, Gustavo Franco wrote: > On 7/29/06, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:11:03 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > >> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, martin f krafft wrote: > >>> also sprach Matthew G

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:51:45 +0900, Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hi, >> > Do you have a rough overview (maybe from your ubuntu experience) >> > which (types of) packages will be affected? >> >> An example might be adding support to wacom-tools to automatically >> configure a device

Re: Branding for Debian derivatives -- "Debian Distilled"

2006-07-30 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 03:41:27PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > As a more general comment: please avoid logos made by people with no > design clue (I'm fully in the category "people with no design clue at > all"). Don't get me wrong: I fully appreciate the efforts made by > people to mock up

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-30 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Joe Wreschnig wrote: > I would much rather have a carefully thought-out policy than people who > barely know Python instigating mass NMUs trying to reach a target that > changes every few weeks. Which is to say, I like Loïc's idea. My apologies for wrongly interpreting your motives. It is my impre

Re: Debian's birthday, 16th of august

2006-07-30 Thread José Parrella
Geert Stappers escribió: > I hope that the idea gets a world-wide follow-up. 11 cities in Venezuela will celebrate Debian's Anniversary with local events featuring advanced talks about Debian applications (i.e. "Debian in Mainframes") and Debian development, as well as traditional "exorcisation" o

Re: Branding for Debian derivatives -- "Debian Distilled"

2006-07-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 01:36:55AM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: > I personally like the "bottled" and "unrough swirl" ideas quite much, > but I wouldn't like to loose the Official logo for that. But if someone > with design abilities would prepare e.g. a transparent bottle with an > unrough swirl in

Re: package ownership in Debian

2006-07-30 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 30 July 2006 13:24, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 07:57:32PM +0200, Julien Danjou wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 07:23:09PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > So, that's a clear example where the team maintenance can be as useless > > as letting only one people ma

Re: Debian's birthday, 16th of august

2006-07-30 Thread Junichi Uekawa
hi, > Meeting fellow FLOSS people is always good. > > The "birthday" of Debian, on august 16th is a good reason > for another 'real live get to gether'. > > In the Netherlands is the venue Breda. Details in [1] > > I hope that the idea gets a world-wide follow-up. We'll celebrate the 13th Deb

Re: package ownership in Debian

2006-07-30 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.30.1124 +0100]: > quality of packages has increased or not. For the former aspect > a poll among DDs would be enough to tell, for the latter my > feeling and experiences tell yes, but it's hard to check. I will be conducting such a poll a

Re: package ownership in Debian

2006-07-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 07:57:32PM +0200, Julien Danjou wrote: > On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 07:23:09PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > So, that's a clear example where the team maintenance can be as useless > as letting only one people maintaining a package. So what? The apache team may be one examp

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-30 Thread Loïc Minier
On Sun, Jul 30, 2006, Frans Pop wrote: > > - introduction of udebs for a new feature of the installer (for > >example, support of wifi drivers on a separate media, a team would > >add udebs to the relevant packages, and change the relevant d-i > >packages to support this) > To be hones

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python bof dc6-video (Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?)

2006-07-30 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Saturday 29 July 2006 19:47, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > "wait for videos" in case you or others haven't noticed, the python bof video is there now: http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2006/debconf6/theora-small/2006-05-15/hacklab/ I'm aware that you had to wait too^wrather

Debian's birthday, 16th of august

2006-07-30 Thread Geert Stappers
Hello, Meeting fellow FLOSS people is always good. The "birthday" of Debian, on august 16th is a good reason for another 'real live get to gether'. In the Netherlands is the venue Breda. Details in [1] I hope that the idea gets a world-wide follow-up. Cheers Geert Stappers [1] http://lists

Re: Branding for Debian derivatives

2006-07-30 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 08:06:51AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > > (a) they'll listen to their users and do their best to incorporate > > that input in future releases > > (b) they'll cooperate with the free software community, both > > in making every effor

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-30 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 10:51:22PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Anthony Towns writes: > > I would definitely like to see some standardisation -- like changing > > from quilt/dpatch to dpkg-source-v2 based patches, or having a standard > > README of some sort to explain how the package is built, bu