Re: Debian and professional certifications

2006-05-01 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 07:26:50AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > Ottavio Caruso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Well, that's a bit offensive. Yeah, using stupid, obviously bogus addresses is only acceptable in the Mail-Followup-To field: http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2

Re: Debian and professional certifications

2006-05-01 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Aníbal Monsalve Salazar dijo [Tue, May 02, 2006 at 04:40:49PM +1000]: > On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 07:27:13AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > >By the way, you could view debian participation as a sort of > >professional certification. Some of the tasks have quite > >detailed and testing requirements... > > So

Re: Debian and professional certifications

2006-05-01 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 07:27:13AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: >By the way, you could view debian participation as a sort of >professional certification. Some of the tasks have quite >detailed and testing requirements... So, the NM process could then be renamed "Debian Professional Certification". Aníba

Re: Debian and professional certifications

2006-05-01 Thread MJ Ray
Ottavio Caruso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, that's a bit offensive. > 1) Is there a specific Debian policy about > professional certifications? Not as far as I know. > If not so, what's your personal opinion? Useful, > useless, good, evil? Useless, mostly evil. > 2)

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-01 Thread MJ Ray
Benjamin Seidenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You may also want to ask some of the DD's who refuse to use freenode > anymore. [...] I mostly avoid freenode for years now, because: - it's verbosity city, from the motd to the wallops - its bizarre behaviours like NOIDPRIVMSG and +q are confusing - it ai

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I was pretty neutral about whether we should pull irc.debian.org away from freenode, but a recent incident makes me wonder how developer friendly freenode is anymore. After some discussion earlier in the day about music players, ipods, and free software one can flash on i

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Re: Debian and professional certifications

2006-05-01 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Dom, 2006-04-30 às 13:37 -0300, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) escreveu: > > Debian is a volunteer project and has neither the inclination or > > capability to run professional certifications, and is not involved or > > partnering with any other organization to provide such. This does not > >

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-01 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10641 March 1977, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > - network stability: oftc annoys with many netsplits lately. This might > be temporary, but in the last month it was extreme. No, some were there, but not more than in Feenode. > - nickserv/chanserv services differ. I'm receiving the expression >

Re: summer of code: what's next?

2006-05-01 Thread Baruch Even
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 08:49:17PM +0100, Baruch Even wrote: > >>>AFAIK the period for proposals is over. >> >>The time to submit proposals is just now starting, it starts on 1st of >>May 2006 according to the SoC Student FAQ. > > > I was talking from the Debian point

Re: summer of code: what's next?

2006-05-01 Thread Baruch Even
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 05:37:21PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > >>As has been mentioned on the -project and -private lists, Debian has >>joined the Google Summer of Code programme, and project ideas are being >>collected on the wiki [1]. Our participation is being admi

Re: summer of code: what's next?

2006-05-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 08:49:17PM +0100, Baruch Even wrote: > > AFAIK the period for proposals is over. > The time to submit proposals is just now starting, it starts on 1st of > May 2006 according to the SoC Student FAQ. I was talking from the Debian point of view: we have no more time to add ne

summer of code: what's next?

2006-05-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 05:37:21PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > As has been mentioned on the -project and -private lists, Debian has > joined the Google Summer of Code programme, and project ideas are being > collected on the wiki [1]. Our participation is being administered > by Baruch Even, whom

Re: About terminology for stable/testing/unstable

2006-05-01 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Lun 1 Mai 2006 12:18, Frans Pop a écrit : > One problem with branches is that you should also have a "trunk" > (that which you branched away from), or at least a "root". > Talking about the "stable branch" does not seem quite right to me; > using "branch" for testing and unstable is quite natura

Re: About terminology for stable/testing/unstable

2006-05-01 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 12:18:38PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > I wanted to suggest to make more general use of the term suite. > However, while writing this I (re)discover that there is a difference > between "suite" and "suit" [1]. Until now I'd linked the term "suite" as > used in Debian with "su

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-01 Thread Guilherme de S. Pastore
Em Dom, 2006-04-30 às 19:34 +0100, Steve McIntyre escreveu: > I've heard it suggested by a variety of people that we should move the > official irc.debian.org alias away from freenode to oftc. I can see > that more and more of my own Debian IRC discussions are on oftc, to > the extent that I'm (cur

Re: About terminology for stable/testing/unstable

2006-05-01 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 10:10:20AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > A recent discussion popped up in the French l10n mailing list > (http://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-french/2006/04/msg00539.html, in > French) about the terminology to use for writing documentation and > making reference to stabl

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-01 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060430 20:35]: > I've heard it suggested by a variety of people that we should move the > official irc.debian.org alias away from freenode to oftc. I can see > that more and more of my own Debian IRC discussions are on oftc, to > the extent that I'm (currently)

Re: About terminology for stable/testing/unstable

2006-05-01 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 01 May 2006 10:10, Christian Perrier wrote: > My personal opinion is that we should maybe use "branch" rather than > "distribution" to avoid that confusion. This is what the French team > is considering (there are some people who object to this, though). One problem with branches is that

Re: About terminology for stable/testing/unstable

2006-05-01 Thread Andreas Barth
* Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060501 10:10]: > However, when looking at various original documentation we have in the > project about this, it appears that some more consistency could be > achieved. "distribution" is sometimes used (as in > http://www.debian.org/releases/) but so is "sui

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-01 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006, Joe Smith wrote: > If the move is done, the FN channels should be kept open and the > topic should redirect users to OFTC. Then any packages that > reference the FN channel should be updated. My point was that the people who really need help just follow irc.debian.org; the peo

Re: About terminology for stable/testing/unstable

2006-05-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, 1 May 2006 10:10:20 +0200 Christian Perrier wrote: > Distribution: used to talk about Debian in general, whichever branch > is used > > Branch (or suite): used to talk about stable, testing and unstable >and explain differences between all of them or the

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 07:25:50PM -0300, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote: > On 04/30/2006 05:46 PM, Frans Pop wrote: > > On Sunday 30 April 2006 22:32, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > >>Why not move it to Jabber? More people use and know what Jabber is > >>these days than IRC. > > > > Just to

Re: irc.debian.org

2006-05-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 01:24:15AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >>> I agree with Steve. While I agree that freenode has many flaws (the > >>> biggest being NOIDPRIVMSG), I find that while I am in Debian channels on > >> Exactly, why is an optional feature such a big fl

About terminology for stable/testing/unstable

2006-05-01 Thread Christian Perrier
A recent discussion popped up in the French l10n mailing list (http://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-french/2006/04/msg00539.html, in French) about the terminology to use for writing documentation and making reference to stable/testing/unstable in various parts of our documentation/web site and even