Re: Experiment: poll on "switching to vim-tiny for standard vi?"

2005-12-22 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 11:11:59PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [...] In the very same post Joey correctly added: > > It's now only marginally larger than nvi [...] > 167% is a rather big margin, isn't it? Depends what it's a percentage of; if it were a perce

Re: Experiment: poll on "switching to vim-tiny for standard vi?"

2005-12-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 22 December 2005 22:53, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > > The problem with this is that popcon tends to be self-selecting for > > > "fan-boys". > I don't know why it was dropped (in the back of > my head I hear a little voice telling it was buggy or something No, the reason was a rewrite of ta

Re: Experiment: poll on "switching to vim-tiny for standard vi?"

2005-12-22 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Petter Reinholdtsen dijo [Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 12:19:58PM +0100]: > > [Chris Waters] > > The problem with this is that popcon tends to be self-selecting for > > "fan-boys". People setting up serious servers with Debian are not > > going to be installing extraneous software like popcon, and casual

Re: Experiment: poll on "switching to vim-tiny for standard vi?"

2005-12-22 Thread MJ Ray
Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [...] In the very same post Joey correctly added: > It's now only marginally larger than nvi [...] 167% is a rather big margin, isn't it? > I asked Joey, as one of the installer maintainer, and for him the size > increase is not a problem. If it is a pro

Re: error in a link for Downlading netinstal CD

2005-12-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 22 December 2005 14:34, Alvin T. P. Brodbeck wrote: > http://www.us.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ > > If I like to Download the 3.1r1, I got the following link to Download: > http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r0a-i3 >86-netinst.iso Links hav

Re: Experiment: poll on "switching to vim-tiny for standard vi?"

2005-12-22 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 05:41:45PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > > vim-tiny depends on the 200k-ish vim-common too, so nvi seems > > about half the total size of a vim-tiny today. > Okay, so that's not "about the same". Stefano? If the above numbers are If this is some kind of insinuation, ... w

Re: Experiment: poll on "switching to vim-tiny for standard vi?"

2005-12-22 Thread Russ Allbery
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I suspect you have not tested the etch installation lately. The > popularity-contest question is asked as part of the standard > installation path, so it is no-longer just for the few that know about > it. I do not know how you define "serious se

Re: Your posting: Debian on one dvd?

2005-12-22 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005, Daniel Tasch wrote: This is not just a problem in contries like India. I am in the US and am still on dialup, and can only get 26k at that. I have to update my redhat by mirroring the updates at work where I have a good connection, burning a CD, and brining it home via "s

Re: Stable security support

2005-12-22 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 11:23:32AM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > Word from the DPL or SecTeam members would be welcome here - do they operate > under the assumption that the security team are delegates? For those who think it's worth delving into this topic, there's a message on -private from

Re: Induction of new members to the technical committee

2005-12-22 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Thursday, December 22, 2005 7:22 AM, Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Manoj, > > On Tuesday, 20 Dec 2005, you wrote: [...] >> So I hereby propose that this committee recommend to the >> the Debian project leader the following individuals to be candidates >> for induc

error in a link for Downlading netinstal CD

2005-12-22 Thread Alvin T. P. Brodbeck
Hi, I found a error at: http://www.us.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ If I like to Download the 3.1r1, I got the following link to Download: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso Well, I changed this from 3.1._r0a to 3.1_r1 and it works

Re: Stable security support

2005-12-22 Thread Steve Kemp
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 11:23:32AM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > Word from the DPL or SecTeam members would be welcome here - do they operate > under the assumption that the security team are delegates? I never have, personally. My reasoning is soley based upon the idea that the team it

Re: Stable security support

2005-12-22 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 22 December 2005 12.08, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 11:23:32AM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > Ah. To me, that is quite a bit of the missing piece of information on > > why you feel this GR is needed. To me the GR sounds very much > > wishy-washy, kind of 'let'

Re: Experiment: poll on "switching to vim-tiny for standard vi?"

2005-12-22 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Chris Waters] > The problem with this is that popcon tends to be self-selecting for > "fan-boys". People setting up serious servers with Debian are not > going to be installing extraneous software like popcon, and casual > users are unlikely to find it interesting enough to install even if > the

Re: Stable security support

2005-12-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 11:23:32AM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > Ah. To me, that is quite a bit of the missing piece of information on why > you feel this GR is needed. To me the GR sounds very much wishy-washy, > kind of 'let's appoint some people who might then do some work.' With what

Re: Stable security support

2005-12-22 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 22 December 2005 09.59, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 08:54:36AM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > Problem with a GR: it doesn't get any work done. > > Right; that's not the intention of the GR though -- the intention is > to authorise people to do the work. I've done

Re: Stable security support

2005-12-22 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 08:54:36AM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > Problem with a GR: it doesn't get any work done. Right; that's not the intention of the GR though -- the intention is to authorise people to do the work. I've done all I feel I'm within my rights to (and in fact slightly more tha

Re: Experiment: poll on "switching to vim-tiny for standard vi?"

2005-12-22 Thread Chris Waters
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 09:14:16PM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > ] Looking at popcon, vim has > ] about twice the amount of users as nvi The problem with this is that popcon tends to be self-selecting for "fan-boys". People setting up serious servers with Debian are not going to be insta

Re: Induction of new members to the technical committee

2005-12-22 Thread Florian Weimer
* Martin Zobel-Helas: > actually, i would like to know how this persons have been > appointed/selected? Will this work like any other vote, so anyone can be > recommented? Or does the CTTE need to assign this person by it's own? No, the DPL and the Technical Committee handle this by themselves. S