Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-14 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 01:06:51PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > There's "I screwed up because I made a mistake", and there's "I screwed up > because I don't actually know what I'm doing", but "I screwed up because I > didn't care about doing a quality job" is on a whole other level. I have much

Re: Ubuntu/Debian cooperation [was: Complaint about #debian operator]

2005-12-14 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 01:57:12PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > I don't disagree. I would much rather every ubuntu change had a > corresponding patch filed in the BTS, Every "relevant" change put into the BTS would be nice, yes. Filing everything in the BTS would result in a lot of "patch,wontfix

Re: Debian on one dvd?

2005-12-14 Thread Siward de Groot
On Thursday 15 December 2005 00:04, Benjamin Seidenberg wrote: > IIRC, the sources have to be distributed in the same medium (Optical). > It's easy to see why, someone could install off a DVD and not have > internet access (or sufficient bandwidth) to be able to download the > sources, and they are

Re: Debian on one dvd?

2005-12-14 Thread Benjamin Seidenberg
Siward de Groot wrote: On Wednesday 14 December 2005 15:46, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: Also the stock image does not include source code correct? Then how do we meet the conditions of the GPL? I don't think the written offer option is feasible for the publishers (though I'll ask to make sure.)

Re: Debian Linux at German Department of State

2005-12-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Andre Felipe Machado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.12.14.2254 +0100]: > I am collecting some high profile success cases of Debian and Linux at > my brazilian portuguese blog page: > > http://www.techforce.com.br/index.php/news/linux_blog/casos_de_sucesso_com_linux If you polished this up,

Debian Linux at German Department of State

2005-12-14 Thread Andre Felipe Machado
Hello, I browsed by the lists.debian.org and still not sure if this debian-project is the right list to post this msg. If not, please let me know the correct one. Does anyone have more information about " According to the printed version of German Linux Magazin, January 2006 edition, the German D

Re: Debian on one dvd?

2005-12-14 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi! * Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [051214 14:23]: > > Unless there are specific packages missing from disk 1 that you know are > > needed for this market, the stock ISO seems like it would be fine. > Out of curiousity, how do these magazines deal with distributing > sources? Don't know ho

Re: Debian on one dvd?

2005-12-14 Thread Siward de Groot
On Wednesday 14 December 2005 15:46, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > Also the stock image does not include source code correct? Then how do we > meet the conditions of the GPL? I don't think the written offer option is > feasible for the publishers (though I'll ask to make sure.) Well, Debian could off

Re: Debian on one dvd?

2005-12-14 Thread Joe Smith
"Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Steve Langasek wrote: Why not just use the stock DVD 1 image? As always, packages are sorted on the disk images according to criteria like package priority and popcon numbers, so probably ough

Re: snapshot.d.n (was: Complaint about #debian operator)

2005-12-14 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-12-14 12:10:30]: > also sprach Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.12.14.1142 +0100]: > > I believe this is due to snapshot.d.n having lost a considerable > > amount of its archive. As those patches were generated from the > > packages > > ... this

Re: [Debian-in-workers] Debian on one dvd?

2005-12-14 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Christian Perrier wrote: Jaldhar, do you think that, in addition to giving Debian DVD's they could feature an article or interview about Debian in general and more particularly the current big energy put in supporting languages from India in Debian, as well as the very spec

Re: [Debian-in-workers] Re: Debian on one dvd?

2005-12-14 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Christian Perrier wrote: So has anyone done anything like this before? Yes. I did that for Linuxtag and Cebit. Actually I had a multiboot DVD, booting i386, amd64 and powerpc. I think I have one of these. Let me try and find it. Something like that would be quite a

Re: Debian on one dvd?

2005-12-14 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Lars Wirzenius wrote: ke, 2005-12-14 kello 01:05 -0800, Steve Langasek kirjoitti: Unless there are specific packages missing from disk 1 that you know are needed for this market, the stock ISO seems like it would be fine. Out of curiousity, how do these magazines deal wit

Re: Debian on one dvd?

2005-12-14 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Steve Langasek wrote: Why not just use the stock DVD 1 image? As always, packages are sorted on the disk images according to criteria like package priority and popcon numbers, so probably ought to be 99% or more of the packages that 99% of the users will need. Unless there

Re: Complaint about #debian operator

2005-12-14 Thread Roger Leigh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 11:29:14AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 12:55:22PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > >> >> This says you are wrong

Re: Debian on one dvd?

2005-12-14 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ke, 2005-12-14 kello 01:05 -0800, Steve Langasek kirjoitti: > Unless there are specific packages missing from disk 1 that you know are > needed for this market, the stock ISO seems like it would be fine. Out of curiousity, how do these magazines deal with distributing sources? -- Programming sho

snapshot.d.n (was: Complaint about #debian operator)

2005-12-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.12.14.1142 +0100]: > I believe this is due to snapshot.d.n having lost a considerable > amount of its archive. As those patches were generated from the > packages ... this makes me wonder why Canonical has not stepped in to support snapshot.d.n.

Re: Complaint about #debian operator

2005-12-14 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 01:29:21AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > As absurd as Andrew's comparison may seem, the diffs distributed from > http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/patches/ are pretty underwhelming as far as > "contributing back to Debian" is concerned. Last time I poked at a package > diff

Re: Complaint about #debian operator

2005-12-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 11:29:14AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 12:55:22PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > >> This says you are wrong: > >> > >> http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/patches/ > > So if I were to diff the Debian arch

Re: Debian on one dvd?

2005-12-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 12:49:19PM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > One of the problems Linux users in countries like India have is low > bandwidth. They prefer to get their distributions on CD or DVD as far as > possible. Debian is very badly affected by this as we usually stress > updating ov

Re: [Debian-in-workers] Re: Debian on one dvd?

2005-12-14 Thread Christian Perrier
> > So has anyone done anything like this before? > > Yes. I did that for Linuxtag and Cebit. Actually I had a multiboot DVD, > booting i386, amd64 and powerpc. We had a few of these "Linuxtag" DVD's at the [EMAIL PROTECTED] trade show in Paris, Novemer 2005. They were IMHO fairly well suited fo

Re: [Debian-in-workers] Debian on one dvd?

2005-12-14 Thread Christian Perrier
> At foss.in I spoke with the editor of Linux For You > (http://www.linuxforu.com/) > which is a magazine devoted to Linux topics with national distribution. > As well as the articles, they distribute a DVD with each issue. I asked > the editor if they would be willing to distribute a Debian DV