Re: What do you win by moving things to non-free?

2005-04-17 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sun, Apr 17, 2005 at 10:39:56PM -0700, Matt R Hall wrote: > I really don't think he is too fair to my point of view. At least from > my view, he always seems to prefer attacking me on red herring mail > editor technicalities or identity issues, instead of covering the > points I bring up. Comme

Re: What do you win by moving things to non-free?

2005-04-17 Thread foo_bar_baz_boo-deb
Hello all, Some abbreviated thoughts from a long rant at Glenn. I really don't think he is too fair to my point of view. At least from my view, he always seems to prefer attacking me on red herring mail editor technicalities or identity issues, instead of covering the points I bring up. Oh well,

Re: What do you win by moving things to non-free?

2005-04-17 Thread Matt R Hall
Hello all, Some abbreviated thoughts from a long rant at Glenn. I really don't think he is too fair to my point of view. At least from my view, he always seems to prefer attacking me on red herring mail editor technicalities or identity issues, instead of covering the points I bring up. Oh well,

Re: I'll be a son of a bitch.

2005-04-17 Thread Martin Schulze
Stephen Frost wrote: > > And 3 is as much a DSA problem as anything. > > 3 is only that way because it's made out to be that way by DSA & co.; it > seems to me anyway. Personally I think it'd be good to have more > involvment in 3 by others who could perhaps by the 'official porters' or > what ha

Re: getting lully back on-line [Was, Re: I'll be a son of a bitch.]

2005-04-17 Thread Ean Schuessler
On Thursday 14 April 2005 06:39 am, Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader wrote: > Yes, and these offers are the reason I haven't suggested spending > money on lully so far; but if people think fixing lully makes more > sense, I'm more than willing to spend money on it. I don't think we are ta

Re: I'll be a son of a bitch.

2005-04-17 Thread Ean Schuessler
On Wednesday 13 April 2005 11:22 pm, Steve Langasek wrote: > In any case, the two obvious contenders for inheriting this responsibility > would be debian-admin and debian-alpha; the former being the ones that > listed lully's status as "no response from local admin", and the latter > having receive

Re: I'll be a son of a bitch.

2005-04-17 Thread John Goerzen
On Sun, Apr 17, 2005 at 04:31:19PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > * John Goerzen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > 1) Finding problems, reporting bugs, submitting patches > > > > 2) Answering questions on the mailing lists from developers that need > > help solving an arch-specific bug > > > > 3) Mak

Re: I'll be a son of a bitch.

2005-04-17 Thread Stephen Frost
* Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > 3) Making sure we have a working buildd and debian developer machine > > > And 3 is as much a DSA problem as anything. > > Yah, the problem with that is that it's not really reasonable to expect DSA > to be passionate about each and every one of the

Re: I'll be a son of a bitch.

2005-04-17 Thread Stephen Frost
* John Goerzen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > 1) Finding problems, reporting bugs, submitting patches > > 2) Answering questions on the mailing lists from developers that need > help solving an arch-specific bug > > 3) Making sure we have a working buildd and debian developer machine > > And 3 is

Re: New policy for http://www.debian.org/consultants

2005-04-17 Thread Luk Claes
Tobias Toedter wrote: Hi, Hi Tobias [...] So this is my proposal, including all modifications mentioned above: Policy for Debian's consultants page 1. Mandatory contact information You must provide a working e-mail address and answer e-mails sent to you

Re: New policy for http://www.debian.org/consultants

2005-04-17 Thread Tobias Toedter
Hi, I think we should rephrase item #1, it sounds quite harsh right now. Furthermore, I suggest to drop the second item of the policy, because its motivation was that every consultant has to list two other means of contact, chosen from the list. We've dropped that requirement, so I think that

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