PCI Network card 100Mb/sec for ppc ?

2007-03-12 Thread Dennis Clarke
Will any or all of these guys work flawlessly wit debian-ppc ? D-Link - DFE-530TX+ - 10/100Mbps Ethernet LAN Adapter The D-Link PCI Ethernet Adapter provides simple plug-and-play installation and adapts to a wide variety of Network Operating Systems. Intel PRO/100 M Desktop 10/100 PCI Adapter I

Re: PowerPC buildd is looking for a new home

2007-05-09 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > voltaire.debian.org, our venerable but still reliable build daemon, > has been living in my apartment for a number of years. I'm moving > house shortly, though, and won't be able to host it in my new home. > So it needs a new guardian.

Re: PowerPC buildd is looking for a new home

2007-05-10 Thread Dennis Clarke
> | > |I have been running the Solaris project Blastwave.org for five years > |and it would be trivial to add in one more machine. > | > |I'm in Canada however. > | > |Dennis > a bit like it is happening with the arm or sparc ports, where new hardware was proposed, but ignored or rejected. I

firmware-linux-nonfree seems to not exist?

2021-09-30 Thread Dennis Clarke
annoying. Harmless. Mostly harmless? -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: firmware-linux-nonfree seems to not exist?

2021-09-30 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 9/30/21 05:57, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hello! > > On 9/30/21 11:20, Dennis Clarke wrote: >> Hardly an issue that seems to affect day to day operations. At least >> from what I can see. However I do see the package is referenced here: >> (...) >&

Re: Testers on PowerMac needed - overwriting the boot-device in NVRAM

2022-03-27 Thread Dennis Clarke
course, the fans being their full speed noises. So, any ideas on what to type at that prompt? -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: Testers on PowerMac needed - overwriting the boot-device in NVRAM

2022-03-27 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/27/22 17:07, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On Mar 27, 2022, at 10:51 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 3/25/22 03:43, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Then the machine DOES NOT boot. I see : Welcome to GRUB! error: symbol `grub_disk_native_sectors' not found. grub r

netinst ppc64 2022-03-24 fails to install GRUB boot loader

2022-03-27 Thread Dennis Clarke
G **: Configuring 'grub-installer' failed with error code 1 Mar 27 21:59:13 main-menu[292]: WARNING **: Menu item 'grub-installer' failed. se --no-rename Not sure what to make of that. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspend

Re: netinst ppc64 2022-03-24 fails to install GRUB boot loader

2022-03-27 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/27/22 18:40, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On Mar 28, 2022, at 12:15 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote:  I just the normal process of booting the netinst DVD image and used the default NOT-expert menu option. I see the usual message : Could be that the hfsprogs-udeb package is missing on

Re: netinst ppc64 2022-03-24 fails to install GRUB boot loader

2022-03-27 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/27/22 18:40, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On Mar 28, 2022, at 12:15 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote:  I just the normal process of booting the netinst DVD image and used the default NOT-expert menu option. I see the usual message : Could be that the hfsprogs-udeb package is missing on

Re: netinst ppc64 2022-03-24 fails to install GRUB boot loader

2022-03-27 Thread Dennis Clarke
nd perhaps the previous syslog and partman files I submitted will shed some light. Otherwise a very stable machine that usually just runs fine is now quite dead until further notice. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: netinst ppc64 2022-03-24 fails to install GRUB boot loader

2022-03-27 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/27/22 22:25, Ken Cunningham wrote: Your log said that you saw this: grub-install: error: filesystem on /boot/grub is neither HFS nor HFS+ I have no idea what the filesystem on /boot/grub might be, but it should be HFS or HFS+ for this to work. So, assuming you are using the blessed ISO a

Re: netinst ppc64 2022-03-24 fails to install GRUB boot loader

2022-03-27 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/27/22 22:25, Stan Johnson wrote: On 3/27/22 7:56 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: ... The 64bit netinst seems to work fine until we get to the GRUB install stage and perhaps the previous syslog and partman files I submitted will shed some light. Otherwise a very stable machine that usually just

Re: netinst ppc64 2022-03-24 fails to install GRUB boot loader

2022-03-27 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/28/22 01:59, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello! On 3/28/22 00:14, Dennis Clarke wrote: I just the normal process of booting the netinst DVD image and used the default NOT-expert menu option. I see the usual message : Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda3 Executing '

Re: netinst ppc64 2022-03-24 fails to install GRUB boot loader

2022-03-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/28/22 01:59, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello! On 3/28/22 00:14, Dennis Clarke wrote: I just the normal process of booting the netinst DVD image and used the default NOT-expert menu option. I see the usual message : Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda3 Executing '

Re: netinst ppc64 2022-03-24 fails to install GRUB boot loader

2022-03-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/28/22 03:23, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 3/28/22 09:18, Dennis Clarke wrote: I can only guess that the partition step worked : https://i.imgur.com/izFmDCe.png Did you actually switch to a second console and checked there is an HFS partition, i.e. by running: # mount | grep

Re: netinst ppc64 2022-03-24 fails to install GRUB boot loader

2022-03-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/28/22 03:23, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 3/28/22 09:18, Dennis Clarke wrote: I can only guess that the partition step worked : https://i.imgur.com/izFmDCe.png Did you actually switch to a second console and checked there is an HFS partition, i.e. by running: # mount | grep

red background always during install

2022-03-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
Red background always during install : https://i.imgur.com/ja5SI2x.png Strange but true :\ Same thing I saw last year and the year before that etc ... -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: netinst ppc64 2022-03-24 fails to install GRUB boot loader

2022-03-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
Also very strange. It should be blue. However the machine runs great. Stable as a rock. When we get an install done of course. ha ha -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: netinst ppc64 2022-03-24 fails to install GRUB boot loader

2022-03-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
the second disk. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: red background always during install

2022-03-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/28/22 03:56, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 9:52 AM Dennis Clarke wrote: Red background always during install : https://i.imgur.com/ja5SI2x.png Strange but true :\ Same thing I saw last year and the year before that etc ... Can you check that radeonfb module was

Re: netinst ppc64 2022-03-24 fails to install GRUB boot loader

2022-03-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/28/22 04:04, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 3/28/22 09:56, Dennis Clarke wrote: Can you try with one of the hard drives removed? That would be somewhat difficult tonight. I have it in a stack with another silver Power_Xeon_Mac under it and a system running on top of it etc etc etc

Re: red background always during install

2022-03-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/28/22 04:13, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 10:00 AM Dennis Clarke wrote: On 3/28/22 03:56, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 9:52 AM Dennis Clarke wrote: . . . Computer says no. :) sorry. I checked /proc/modules and there is no radeon to be

NEW netinst 2022-03-28 test images

2022-03-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
ful things. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: NEW netinst 2022-03-28 test images

2022-03-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/28/22 14:42, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On Mar 28, 2022, at 8:38 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote:  With great thanks to John Paul Adrian Glaubitz we see new test images have landed : https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2022-03-28/ Therefore I shall jump on that

Re: NEW netinst 2022-03-28 test images

2022-03-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/28/22 14:42, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On Mar 28, 2022, at 8:38 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote:  With great thanks to John Paul Adrian Glaubitz we see new test images have landed : https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2022-03-28/ Therefore I shall jump on that

Re: NEW netinst 2022-03-28 test images

2022-03-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 3/28/22 18:00, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi! On 3/28/22 22:58, Dennis Clarke wrote: Works like a charm! Good to hear! Indeed. I am still unsure how I landed in this spot but it all started with the dreaded nvram --update-config boot-device="" step. That gave me

About that nvram --update-config boot-device=""

2022-03-29 Thread Dennis Clarke
ateway-ip= default-subnet-mask= default-router-ip= boot-script= aapl,pci= boot-args= aapl,tdm-units= ram-size=0x2800 boot-once= boot-last-label=Linux root@enceladus:~# Thing of beauty. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: iso image for PPC G4 700MHz

2022-05-05 Thread Dennis Clarke
TINST are less than 500MB. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

Re: Off-Topic: G5 Open Firmware instability

2022-05-13 Thread Dennis Clarke
ago somewhere in the Linux ver 4.x kernel. Have you given consideration to a fresh up to date install of Debian? -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

emacs-nox throwing SIGSEGV ?

2022-08-30 Thread Dennis Clarke
n facilities for all emacsen root@enceladus:~# I have heard from good sources that the x86_64 pkg is borked also. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

hfsplus package seems to have no man pages?

2022-08-31 Thread Dennis Clarke
/man/man1/hpfsck.1.gz enceladus# nada ... rein ... nichts -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional

debian-9.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso results in "unknown or corrupt filesystem"

2017-10-11 Thread Dennis Clarke
Dear ppc types : I have downloaded and booted and installed from the ports area the following : see https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/ports/ also debian-9.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso I went for the "easy" install and simply allow the installer to put everything onto the whole

Re: debian-9.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso results in "unknown or corrupt filesystem"

2017-10-14 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 10/13/2017 04:04 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Oct 11, 2017, at 9:16 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: Everything went along fine until reboot wherein I see an unknown or corrupt filesystem message : Try installing with “use entire disk and set up LVM” (or words to that effect) at partitioning

floating point types seems to need VSX support ?

2017-10-20 Thread Dennis Clarke
WARNING : long and winding but full of examples. This is quite confusing with gcc 7.2.0 on latest ppc64 sid. nix_$ uname -a Linux nix 4.13.0-1-powerpc64 #1 SMP Debian 4.13.4-1 (2017-10-01) ppc64 GNU/Linux nix_$ gcc --version gcc (Debian 7.2.0-11) 7.2.0 Copyright (C) 2017 Free Software Found

Re: floating point types seems to need VSX support ?

2017-10-23 Thread Dennis Clarke
y on earlier hardware. It does, however, work perfectly on the Sparc architecture. I am looking into this closely and will have some results in a day or so. Dennis Clarke

Re: floating point types seems to need VSX support ?

2017-10-24 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 10/23/2017 11:19 AM, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:55:34PM -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote: WARNING : long and winding but full of examples. So the comment mentions pi = 3.14159265358979323846264338327950280e+00L while you use pi_ld

Re: PPC64: gcc currently compiles for power4 by default, causing glibc's sqrtf to fail on e6500

2018-02-10 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 09/02/18 05:34 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 02/09/2018 11:30 AM, Bas Vermeulen wrote: mator on #debian-ports compiled gcc-7 for me with the attached patch. With the resulting gcc, I compiled glibc and got a library I can use sqrtf without running into an illegal instruction excepti

Re: Hardware info in Mac Mini G4

2018-02-10 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 09/02/18 08:34 AM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > Just for posterity... PowerMac G5 here : ppc_nix$ hexdump -C /sys/firmware/devicetree/base/rom@0,ff80/boot-rom@fff0/BootROM-version 24 30 30 30 35 2e 32 37 66 31 00 |$0005.27f1.| 000b ppc_nix$ ppc_nix$ h

Re: PPC64: gcc currently compiles for power4 by default, causing glibc's sqrtf to fail on e6500

2018-02-10 Thread Dennis Clarke
This is something that needs to be discussed. A single user alone shouldn't warrant such major change in a port. You always have to keep in mind that changing the default compiler options also has potential impact on the performance on more modern ppc64 systems like Apple Macintosh. Not sure

How to create a simplistic initrd.img in /boot ?

2018-02-26 Thread Dennis Clarke
Dear ppc types : I searched around on https://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/pmac as well as a few other places and thought I should ask before going further. I have built kernel 4.15.6 on x86 a few times and installed it twice on two debian buster alpha systems today. No issues. Same proce

initrd fails load with "ERROR: claim of 0xfe49172 in range 0x1340000-0x10000000 failed"

2018-03-03 Thread Dennis Clarke
Dear PPC types : So I carefully built kernel 4.15.6 and created the needed initrd.img-4.15.6 in /boot with update-initramfs and checked it carefully against the pre-existing initrd.img-4.13.0-1-powerpc64 for Debian buster/sid. Everything looks great and my objective was to poke around the RFI f

Re: initrd fails load with "ERROR: claim of 0xfe49172 in range 0x1340000-0x10000000 failed"

2018-03-04 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 04/03/18 07:37 AM, Frank Scheiner wrote: Hi Dennis, Hi Frank and thank you for the reply. I was worried I would hear nothing but silence on this mail list. Sometimes that happens and I think your email has really shed light on the some issues. I think. On 03/04/2018 04:11 AM, Dennis

Re: initrd fails load with "ERROR: claim of 0xfe49172 in range 0x1340000-0x10000000 failed"

2018-03-04 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 03/04/2018 11:00 PM, Brock Wittrock wrote: Dennis, You'll definitely want to make sure to retain the windfarm module ... Yes indeed. Somewhere in the dusty regions of my memory I did recall checking fan speed and cpu temps via the windfarm module data. So, that is definately a keeper. Denn

Re: initrd fails load with "ERROR: claim of 0xfe49172 in range 0x1340000-0x10000000 failed"

2018-03-05 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 03/05/2018 02:12 AM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 4:11 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: Dear PPC types : So I carefully built kernel 4.15.6 and created the needed initrd.img-4.15.6 in /boot with update-initramfs and checked it carefully against the pre-existing initrd.img

how to get around this mess : GPG error: http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports unstable InRelease

2018-03-14 Thread Dennis Clarke
This has been happening for weeks with a simple apt-get update : . . . Reading package lists... Done W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports unstable InR

Re: how to get around this mess : GPG error: http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports unstable InRelease

2018-03-14 Thread Dennis Clarke
ppc64_l4.15.9# apt-key list gpg: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib/libreadline.so.7: undefined symbol: PC ppc64_l4.15.9# Any thoughts from anybody ? Never mind ... I see the issue here. Of course I always see it *after* I email the maillist ... seems to be always the way. Had to move

I love the lyrics

2018-03-22 Thread Dennis Clarke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc89WTEh-jE ever since I connected with the guys in the Six Nations

baffled by a slightly broken systemd and /lib/systemd/libsystemd-shared-235.so

2018-03-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
It seems that I have annoyed the runtime loader in that something as simple as a shutdown now issues these concerns : nix ppc64# shutdown -r "now" shutdown: /usr/local/lib/libblkid.so.1: no version information available (required by /lib/systemd/libsystemd-shared-235.so) shutdown: /usr/local/li

Re: baffled by a slightly broken systemd and /lib/systemd/libsystemd-shared-235.so

2018-03-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
Follow up to myself : On 28/03/18 11:10 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: It seems that I have annoyed the runtime loader ... https://i.imgur.com/QEHuxYd.jpg This problem results in a warm brick with windfarm howling. Dennis

Re: baffled by a slightly broken systemd and /lib/systemd/libsystemd-shared-235.so

2018-03-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 28/03/18 01:00 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi Dennis! Have you tried dist-upgrading your system? I spotted systemd 235 and maybe the binary was built with a broken binutils version which can happen and cause weird crashes and corrupted binaries. Thank you for the suggestion and

Re: baffled by a slightly broken systemd and /lib/systemd/libsystemd-shared-235.so

2018-03-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 28/03/18 03:26 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 28/03/18 01:00 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi Dennis! Have you tried dist-upgrading your system? I spotted systemd 235 and maybe the binary was built with a broken binutils version which can happen and cause weird crashes and corrupted

no quadmath.h on ppc64 ?

2018-04-04 Thread Dennis Clarke
Silly question. I tried to test a bit of _Float128 datatype stuff and so I installed the only libquadmath lib I could find. nix$ dpkg -L libquadmath0-ppc64el-cross /. /usr /usr/powerpc64le-linux-gnu /usr/powerpc64le-linux-gnu/lib /usr/powerpc64le-linux-gnu/lib/libquadmath.so.0.0.0 /usr/share /

Re: no quadmath.h on ppc64 ?

2018-04-04 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 04/04/18 02:57 PM, Breno Leitao wrote: Hi Dennis, On 04/04/2018 03:31 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: Silly question. I tried to test a bit of _Float128 datatype stuff and so  I installed the only libquadmath lib I could find. nix$ dpkg -L libquadmath0-ppc64el-cross Are you using ppc64 or

Re: no quadmath.h on ppc64 ?

2018-04-12 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 05/04/18 01:24 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 04/05/2018 12:01 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: So there we see "--disable-libquadmath --disable-libquadmath-support". damn.   :-( Please file a bug report against Debian's gcc-5, gcc-6, gcc-7 and gcc-8 packages if

Re: no quadmath.h on ppc64 ?

2018-04-16 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 12/04/18 01:39 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 05/04/18 01:24 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 04/05/2018 12:01 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: So there we see "--disable-libquadmath --disable-libquadmath-support". damn.   :-( Please file a bug report against Debian's gcc-5, g

Re: no quadmath.h on ppc64 ?

2018-04-16 Thread Dennis Clarke
> > Working on it : > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=895452 > > https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=82686 https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-testresults/2018-04/msg01351.html nix$ cat pq.c #define _XOPEN_SOURCE 600 /* #include */ #include #include #include #include

Re: no quadmath.h on ppc64 ?

2018-04-17 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 17/04/18 09:53 AM, Gabriel F. T. Gomes wrote: Hi, Dennis. On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Dennis Clarke wrote: nix$ cat pq.c Where does this test case file come from? Here, there, my head, where ever. It was a long day and I had been trying all manner of variations in order to get something

gcc bugid 85440 re ppc64 and libquadmath

2018-04-17 Thread Dennis Clarke
The last bugid 82686 no longer applies really. Thus https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=85440 I may be making noises in the mail list(s) but I really am trying to figure out the mess. If older powerpc type hardware just does not work then such is life and I will go fetch an IBM Power s

Re: no quadmath.h on ppc64 ?

2018-04-17 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 17/04/18 09:53 AM, Gabriel F. T. Gomes wrote: Hi, Dennis. On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Dennis Clarke wrote: nix$ cat pq.c Where does this test case file come from? Are you asking the same question over and over again on purpose? It is a trivial test. So it came from my coffee cup. Here

slightly weird data from htop

2018-04-18 Thread Dennis Clarke
Curious if anyone else sees htop report close to 0% CPU utilization for pid's while the machine is seriously busy at nearly 100% usage. see https://i.imgur.com/VDaiZRm.png Dennis

Re: slightly weird data from htop

2018-04-18 Thread Dennis Clarke
see https://i.imgur.com/VDaiZRm.png Never mind .. duh .. I see the output is sorted by PID and not CPU usage. Wonderful how I notice that immediately after posting to a mail list :-\ dc

Re: slightly weird data from htop

2018-04-18 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 18/04/18 05:47 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 04/18/2018 11:43 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: see https://i.imgur.com/VDaiZRm.png Never mind .. duh .. I see the output is sorted by PID and not CPU usage.  Wonderful how I notice that immediately after posting to a mail list :-\ You are

Fwd: [Bug web/82686] Debian sid powerpc64-unknown-linux-gnu 4.13.0-1-powerpc64 bootstrap breaks in stage3 with unexpected requirement for bdw-gc

2018-04-18 Thread Dennis Clarke
Merely an FYI ... the word on the street is that GCC 8 will provide a solid implementation of libquadmath to ppc64. We also know that the newer IBM Power line will have some hardware implementation for the new 128-bit floating point type. Not sure if anyone else is thrilled by this but for me

Re: Removal of POWER4 support

2018-04-20 Thread Dennis Clarke
Note: We aren't removing 970 (aka G5) support, only server POWER4. Be advised that I have gone in very big circles with gcc 7.3.0 and the test variants for gcc 8 on an old IBM 970 Power ISA v.2.03 spec G5 unit. Some weird things happen if one tries various options on the GCC manual for "IBM

Re: no quadmath.h on ppc64 ?

2018-04-20 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 17/04/18 09:53 AM, Gabriel F. T. Gomes wrote: Hi, Dennis. On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Dennis Clarke wrote: nix$ cat pq.c Where does this test case file come from? nix$ grep "FLT128_DIG" /usr/local/gcc7/lib/gcc/powerpc64-unknown-linux-gnu/7.3.0/include/float.h #undef FLT128_D

Re: How to read CPU temp from TAU?

2018-05-26 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 05/26/2018 06:18 PM, Matti Palmström wrote: Hi How do you read the cpu temperature from TAU on an iMac mini G4 (MPC7447a)? According to /boot/config-4.16.0-1-powerpc it is compiled with TAU on CONFIG_TAU=y but I can't find a way to read it. I've tried with lm-sensors but no go there. Rega

Re: upcoming shutdown of DSA-run powerpc buildds

2018-06-26 Thread Dennis Clarke
to wonder why there is not a Debian release in some form or fashion? There seems to be little available for powerpc which is big endian whereas ppc64le seems to be quite popular. Dennis Clarke

Re: Error trying to update powerpc64 Jessie machine.

2018-06-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
Yes, as announced by DSA, the powerpc buildds have been shut down: https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2018/06/msg4.html Tears in all directions. At least from those of us that love our risc architectures. We are currently in the process to properly move powerpc to Debian Ports.

Re: Error trying to update powerpc64 Jessie machine.

2018-06-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 06/28/2018 04:40 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 06/28/2018 10:35 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: It is perfectly possible to install the last supported 64-bit release and then dist-upgrade to sid and everything seems to run just fine. I am having no troubles ( nothing fascinating other

Re: Error trying to update powerpc64 Jessie machine.

2018-06-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 06/28/2018 05:09 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 06/28/2018 11:08 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: This is just the kernel. Your userland is still 32-bit, I assume: dpkg --print-architecture root@nix:~# dpkg --print-architecture ppc64 The ppc64 port was neither part of this discussion

Re: Error trying to update powerpc64 Jessie machine.

2018-06-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 06/28/2018 05:33 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 06/28/2018 11:27 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: The original discussion was around powerpc which is 32-bit. Just taser me. That was not my intention at all I'm having fun and if you google me ... you know I support open source pro

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-24 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 08/24/2018 09:31 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: I just loaded the latest Debian-ports powerpc64 installer on a PowerMac dual-core G5 that I had lying around. It installed kernel 4.16.0-1-powerpc64 from the CD. After the install finished, I did an update/upgrade and that installed kernel 4.17.0-3-

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-25 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 08/25/2018 04:10 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Aug 24, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 08/24/2018 09:31 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: I just loaded the latest Debian-ports powerpc64 installer on a PowerMac dual-core G5 that I had lying around. It installed kernel 4.16.0-1-powerpc64 from

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-25 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 08/25/2018 06:41 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Aug 25, 2018, at 7:54 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: The bucket of things I see back on 4.15.0 are : 4.15.0-2-powerpc64@nix# uname -a Linux nix 4.15.0-2-powerpc64 #1 SMP Debian 4.15.11-1 (2018-03-20) ppc64 GNU/Linux 4.15.0-2-powerpc64@nix# lsmod

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-26 Thread Dennis Clarke
boot and run a linux kernel and a userland on a toaster or twenty year old HP Kayak PC if you like. I know that I have. Dennis Clarke [1] https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/fe313521-2e95-46f2-817d-44a4f27eba32/entry/More_FAQs_about_Little_Endian_An_Update?lang=en [2] https://ww

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-26 Thread Dennis Clarke
Make sure you build initrd with MODULES=dep and not "all" modules via /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/* or in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf as well CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO=n in kernel config. I usually trim down the config to the minimal and then merely throw "make modules_install" after t

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-26 Thread Dennis Clarke
Again, too much ranting. If you think all is lost and putting efforts in Debian Ports is pointless, you're in the wrong forum. Efforts in debian ports isn't pointless. One should make a distinction between working with a platform with a future and a platform from the past. Dennis

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-26 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Everyone knows that we are more or less doing retro-computing here ... Thank you for giving it a name. Retro-computing. Very cute. dc

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-26 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 08/26/2018 07:08 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 8/26/18 1:06 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: Everyone knows that we are more or less doing retro-computing here ... Thank you for giving it a name.  Retro-computing.  Very cute. Are you being sarcastic? Not at all. Not in the least

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-26 Thread Dennis Clarke
Why would I want to through out working computers and replace them with new ones, just because the new ones happen to be little endian? I have no such desire. I have ppc64 and arm7 boxes laying about for experimental reasons as well as educational reasons. Dennis

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-26 Thread Dennis Clarke
Now, the question is: Why? What has changed between 4.16 and 4.17 that makes this necessary? And, is it a bug or a feature? To finally get back to you about this "windfarm" business I can tell you that an out-of-the-box build of the latest stable kernel results in all the expected windfa

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-26 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 08/25/2018 04:10 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Aug 24, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 08/24/2018 09:31 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: I just loaded the latest Debian-ports powerpc64 installer on a PowerMac dual-core G5 that I had lying around. Have a look around for something called

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-27 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 08/27/2018 05:18 AM, Bas Vermeulen wrote: Hi Dennis, Your modules aren't stripped, which is what causes the huge initrd. Try: make INSTALL_MOD_STRIP=1 modules_install instead of make modules_install to fix this. A switch to just the required "dep" modules resulted in a small enough initrd

Re: Firefox segfaults when I start it

2018-08-27 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 08/27/2018 09:54 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 8/25/18 10:54 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: 2) Firefox segfaults when I start it, either from command line or from the system menu. Is this a known bug? Are there any other graphical (i.e., non-text-mode) browsers I can use

Re: Firefox segfaults when I start it

2018-08-27 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 08/27/2018 11:09 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 8/28/18 5:08 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Guess not. Explanation here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2017/12/msg00060.html Oh, FWIW, you need to install the version from experimental. # apt install firefox -t=experi

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-28 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 08/27/2018 09:53 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: I can try just about anything on my G5. It exists strictly for testing, right now. If you can point me to a .deb with the patch that I can install, I’ll be happy to test it. That code seems to be a G4 related item : /* * Creation Date: <2003/

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-09-03 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 09/03/2018 04:42 AM, Wolfram Sang wrote: The bug is “status: NEEDINFO”, so I assume it’s not fixed yet. In the meantime, manually loading the windfarm modules is a tested workaround. Does this workaround work for you, too? "However, there is a workaround: In addition to CONFIG_I2C_POWER

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-09-03 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 09/03/2018 03:51 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 9/3/18 9:43 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: Seems to work fine so long as there is a monitor attached at boot time. If there isn't then the whole system goes into loud windfarm mode and is a warm brick. Did you test the patch by Wo

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-09-04 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 09/04/2018 02:42 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: Sadly, I don’t have the expertise to build a patched kernel. If you can point me to a patched kernel .deb file, I’ll be happy to install it and report on the results. Building and installing a kernel isn't that difficult but the creation of a ".de

Re: linux-image-3.13-1-powerpc-smp: therm_windtunnel does not load correctly

2018-09-04 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 09/04/2018 02:38 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: Hi Mathieu, I’m sorry that I don’t have the expertise to apply a patch and build a kernel. I am looking for testers for the following patch: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=741663#20 Did that ... it works? Has been working for a

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-09-04 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 09/04/2018 03:53 AM, Michel Dänzer wrote: On 2018-09-03 9:43 p.m., Dennis Clarke wrote: Seems to work fine so long as there is a monitor attached at boot time. If there isn't then the whole system goes into loud windfarm mode and is a warm brick. This is due to yaboot's ofboo

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-09-21 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 09/03/2018 04:42 AM, Wolfram Sang wrote: The bug is “status: NEEDINFO”, so I assume it’s not fixed yet. In the meantime, manually loading the windfarm modules is a tested workaround. Does this workaround work for you, too? "However, there is a workaround: In addition to CONFIG_I2C_POWER

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-10-02 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 09/24/2018 10:18 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Sep 21, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 09/03/2018 04:42 AM, Wolfram Sang wrote: The bug is “status: NEEDINFO”, so I assume it’s not fixed yet. In the meantime, manually loading the windfarm modules is a tested workaround. Does this

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-10-03 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 10/03/2018 02:35 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: Thanks for the reply, Dennis! On Oct 2, 2018, at 7:21 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 09/24/2018 10:18 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Sep 21, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 09/03/2018 04:42 AM, Wolfram Sang wrote: Merely a follow up. I

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-10-03 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 10/03/2018 03:52 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Oct 3, 2018, at 12:19 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: I gather you have the 4-core version. Looks like just dual core. I don't think the IBM 970ppc was ever quad core. Sorry… I said “core” when I should have said “processor”. You have

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-10-10 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 08/25/2018 04:10 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Aug 24, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 08/24/2018 09:31 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: I just loaded the latest Debian-ports powerpc64 installer ... From the better late than never pile. So I built and installed 4.18.12 twice. Documented

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-10-12 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 10/12/2018 04:16 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 10/12/18 9:54 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: How about this… You send me your detailed notes from making the kernel; There is extensive documentation on this topic available [1]. Adrian [1] https://kernel-team.pages.debian.net/kernel-han

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-10-12 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 10/12/2018 10:28 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 10/12/18 4:10 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: That page speaks of many things but clear instructions are not among them. That whole page speaks in riddles and strange incantations that don't really mean anything. The next full moon is

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-10-15 Thread Dennis Clarke
This all started because of this thing : https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/drivers/macintosh?id=3e7bed52719de4b5b5fb900869e293eae0bc3f3e Which gets referenced here : https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=199471 I still don't know if it works or

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