Re: Xorg fails on ATI after update (mmio aperture)

2017-03-06 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
> On Mar 6, 2017, at 8:36 AM, Michel Dänzer wrote: > >> On 06/03/17 04:20 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> Correct me if I'm wrong, but in order to use atyfb you have to use >> the fbdev xorg driver. That's my main point. > > If you mean for Xorg to use atyfb, that's technically correct

Re: Xorg fails on ATI after update (mmio aperture)

2017-03-06 Thread Michel Dänzer
On 06/03/17 04:59 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> On Mar 6, 2017, at 8:36 AM, Michel Dänzer wrote: >> >> Anyway, I looked at Riccardo's original post again and noticed that his >> xorg.conf has options disabling all hardware acceleration of >> xserver-xorg-video-mach64 anyway. In that case

Re: Newbie trying to install Debian PPC into an old 15" PowerBook G4...

2017-03-06 Thread Martin Hřebec
On 03/06/2017 08:37 AM, PhiLLip Pi wrote: > ... >> OK, I went back to Debian's net-installer. I installed into the ext4 >> partition that was made by Ubuntu's installer. Everything went good from >> here. I was able to boot up Debian (froze at its text login screen >> though) and Mac OS X. Now

Re: Xorg fails on ATI after update (mmio aperture)

2017-03-06 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 03/06/2017 09:06 AM, Michel Dänzer wrote: >> On a sidenote: Please be more polite on this list. There is no need to >> be that rude and condescending. > > What specifically did you find rude and condescending? It's an honest > question. I know my writing tends to be too concise, but I'm honestl

Re: Xorg fails on ATI after update (mmio aperture)

2017-03-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi guys, don't fight over kernel modules :) le'ts just get the thing working again. Michel Dänzer wrote: But in any case, using fbdev should always work. The "mach64" driver >may be broken because it's more or less orphaned. Except for the part where Riccardo says that the same userspace works

Re: Xorg fails on ATI after update (mmio aperture)

2017-03-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Your machine is loading the framebuffer kernel driver which will only work when you configure X.Org to use the "fbdev" driver. You can either set your display driver to "fbdev" (see further below) or disable the framebuffer driver on the kernel command line w

Re: Xorg fails on ATI after update (mmio aperture)

2017-03-06 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 03/06/2017 11:04 AM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > Exactly, that "proof" means that the changes comes from the kernel or > that the driver needs updating to work with the new kernel. Or the kernel needs to be fixed in case it's a regression. > Compiling kernels is a bit tight on this iBook. What r

Re: Xorg fails on ATI after update (mmio aperture)

2017-03-06 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Mon, 2017-03-06 at 08:59 +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > > > On Mar 6, 2017, at 8:36 AM, Michel Dänzer > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 06/03/17 04:20 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but in order to use atyfb you have to > > > use > > > the fbd

Re: Xorg fails on ATI after update (mmio aperture)

2017-03-06 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 02:00:03PM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > No. He wasn't rude. Not a bit. Yes, *I* perceived that as rude. > He simply was - as most of the time here > - very specific, terse and up to the relevant technical points. He was talking to me as if I was an idiot. It is alrig

Re: PowerMac G5 and KMS

2017-03-06 Thread 小野寛生
Thank you. Just unconditionally disabling AGP in R300 initialization made radeonkms to load successfully. It seems that no tunables for FreeBSD are described instead of MODULE_PARM_DESC and module_param_named. So, I have to learn how to add them to the source code. (/usr/src/sys/dev/drm2/os_freebs

Re: Fwd: Re: Newbie trying to install Debian PPC into an old 15" PowerBook G4...

2017-03-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 07:38:47PM -0800, PhiLLip Pi wrote: > On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 11:07:23AM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > > > > I downloaded, burned, and booted > > > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-powerpc.iso > > > > > > since I didn't have a bl

Re: Newbie trying to install Debian PPC into an old 15" PowerBook G4...

2017-03-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sun, Mar 05, 2017 at 11:37:36PM -0800, PhiLLip Pi wrote: > Hmm, I must be blind. I can't seem to find any X11, XFree86, Xwhatever, > etc. packages for GUI stuff. Also, is this net installer really limited > compared to regular Debian installer for 64-bit non-Mac PCs? Am I > expecting too much

Re: Newbie trying to install Debian PPC into an old 15" PowerBook G4...

2017-03-06 Thread PhiLLip Pi
On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 10:53:01AM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Sun, Mar 05, 2017 at 11:37:36PM -0800, PhiLLip Pi wrote: > > Hmm, I must be blind. I can't seem to find any X11, XFree86, Xwhatever, > > etc. packages for GUI stuff. Also, is this net installer really limited > > compared to

Re: Newbie trying to install Debian PPC into an old 15" PowerBook G4...

2017-03-06 Thread PhiLLip Pi
On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 09:36:55AM +0100, Martin Hřebec wrote: > > > On 03/06/2017 08:37 AM, PhiLLip Pi wrote: > > ... > >> OK, I went back to Debian's net-installer. I installed into the ext4 > >> partition that was made by Ubuntu's installer. Everything went good from > >> here. I was able to

Re: Newbie trying to install Debian PPC into an old 15" PowerBook G4...

2017-03-06 Thread PhiLLip Pi
... > > >> OK, I went back to Debian's net-installer. I installed into the ext4 > > >> partition that was made by Ubuntu's installer. Everything went good from > > >> here. I was able to boot up Debian (froze at its text login screen > > >> though) and Mac OS X. Now, I need to install X and all

Re: PowerMac G5 and KMS

2017-03-06 Thread Joe Nosay
Set up SSH tunneling with X11 forwarding. On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Hiroo Ono (小野寛生) < hiroo.ono+free...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you. > > Just unconditionally disabling AGP in R300 initialization made > radeonkms to load successfully. > It seems that no tunables for FreeBSD are described

Unable to wake up PowerBook G4's display after closing and reopening its lid.

2017-03-06 Thread PhiLLip Pi
Hello. Now, I have Debian PowerPC installed, updated, and running on the very old 2002 15" PowerBook G4. I noticed after closing (Apple's glowing logo light goes off, but the old fans still spin) and opening its lid, it won't wake up. I retried this in both LXDE, XFCE, and the GUI login screen

Re: Xorg fails on ATI after update (mmio aperture)

2017-03-06 Thread Michel Dänzer
On 06/03/17 10:08 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 02:00:03PM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: >> No. He wasn't rude. Not a bit. > > Yes, *I* perceived that as rude. > >> He simply was - as most of the time here >> - very specific, terse and up to the relevant technic

Re: Xorg fails on ATI after update (mmio aperture)

2017-03-06 Thread Michel Dänzer
On 06/03/17 07:04 PM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > > don't fight over kernel modules :) le'ts just get the thing working again. Right, that's always my intent. :) >> Anyway, I looked at Riccardo's original post again and noticed that his >> xorg.conf has options disabling all hardware acceleration

Re: Unable to wake up PowerBook G4's display after closing and reopening its lid.

2017-03-06 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:04 AM, PhiLLip Pi wrote: > Hello. > > Now, I have Debian PowerPC installed, updated, and running on the very > old 2002 15" PowerBook G4. I noticed after closing (Apple's glowing logo > light goes off, but the old fans still spin) and opening its lid, it > won't wake up. I

Re: Unable to wake up PowerBook G4's display after closing and reopening its lid.

2017-03-06 Thread PhiLLip Pi
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 07:52:56AM +0100, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > > > > Now, I have Debian PowerPC installed, updated, and running on the very > > old 2002 15" PowerBook G4. I noticed after closing (Apple's glowing logo > > light goes off, but the old fans still spin) and opening its lid, it >