new installation on 4400/200

2001-04-05 Thread Bruno Waes
so far i managed to install debian on i386, sparc and alpha, and now i want to give powerpc a try ;-) in a few days i am getting a 4400/200 system, i heard that is a pci system where i can use normal pc nic's for example (ones supported by linux), is this correct ? is this machine able to boot fr

Re: pmud / harddisk / kernel problem

2001-04-05 Thread Christoph Ewering
Hello Benjamin! Do you have something new to test for sleep on TiPB? BTW. If I remember right, FireWire is not switched off during sleep, will this happen in the near future? Maybe some interface to configure which device should be powered on during sleep and which device can be powered off durin

Re: pmud / harddisk / kernel problem

2001-04-05 Thread Christoph Ewering
> That´s enough, don´t want to vast your time, bye, Sorry should be waste not vast :-) -- Dipl. Ing. Christoph EweringC & E Informationsdienste GbR 0 52 54 80 68 66 oder 0173 566 266 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: XF4.0: Bad key release events for meta/control

2001-04-05 Thread Michel Dänzer
"Jason E. Stewart" wrote: > I've noticed something that I think is an XF4.0 bug, but I thought I'd > check it with y'all first. > > I've had problems with this for quite some time. I'll be working in > Emacs and scrolling down a bunch of text (Control-V), and I'll pause > for a few seconds, still

Please recompile zope 2.1.6-8 for potato (sparc, alpha, powerpc)

2001-04-05 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
Hi, I've uploaded a new revision of the zope package (2.1.6-8) for stable. i386, arm and m68k packages are already there, but alpha, powerpc and sparc is missing. Joey told me to inform you to recompile the package so that it can get into 2.2p3. The package fixes a quite important problem with th

Re: pmud / harddisk / kernel problem

2001-04-05 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> >Do you have something new to test for sleep on TiPB? > >BTW. If I remember right, FireWire is not switched off during sleep, >will this happen in the near future? >Maybe some interface to configure which device should be powered on >during sleep and which device can be powered off during sleep.

Re: new installation on 4400/200

2001-04-05 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:00:21AM +0200, Bruno Waes wrote: > so far i managed to install debian on i386, sparc and alpha, and now i want > to give powerpc a try ;-) you will find that oldworld macs are a right pain in the ass to bootstrap without macos. if you keep macos around you can use bootx

Re: new installation on 4400/200

2001-04-05 Thread Bruno Waes
- Original Message - From: "Ethan Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 2:23 PM Subject: Re: new installation on 4400/200 On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:00:21AM +0200, Bruno Waes wrote: >> so far i managed to install debian on i386, sparc and alpha, and now i want >>

Re: [ANN] Gnome 1.4 debs available

2001-04-05 Thread Adam C Powell IV
Bastien Nocera wrote: > Hi, > > http://hadess.net/idoru.shtml for all the info > > No Fifth Toe applications available yet, old applications should work > alright, maybe a symlink here and there for the libraries. > I'll add them as I build them, after GUADEC. These are the Ximian .debs? If so,

Re: new installation on 4400/200

2001-04-05 Thread David J. Roundy
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 03:26:10PM +0200, Bruno Waes wrote: > > From: "Ethan Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 2:23 PM > Subject: Re: new installation on 4400/200 > > On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:00:21AM +0200, Bruno Waes wrote: > >> so far i managed to install deb

Re: new installation on 4400/200

2001-04-05 Thread Adam C Powell IV
Bruno Waes wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Ethan Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 2:23 PM > Subject: Re: new installation on 4400/200 > > On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:00:21AM +0200, Bruno Waes wrote: > >> so far i managed to install debian on i386, s

Re: pmud / harddisk / kernel problem

2001-04-05 Thread Wilhelm *rafial* Fitzpatrick
Another interesting thing about the current implementation of sleep on the TiPB is that I noticed that the LCD screen is still on (i.e. I can see windows) even though the backlight goes off and the sleep light comes on. BTW, I did confirm that it works for me under X, as has been everybody els

Re: new installation on 4400/200

2001-04-05 Thread Adam C Powell IV
D'oh! Jumped elsewhere mid-sentence... Adam C Powell IV wrote: > Uh oh... I wasn't able to get it to unpack in MockOS either (on a Motorola > StarMax- pmac 4400 clone with 7.6, the newer StuffIt don't run on <8.1), had > to > unpack the tarball in Linux (link somewhere in the "Sand use hfscopy

Re: XF4.0: Bad key release events for meta/control

2001-04-05 Thread Jason E. Stewart
"Michel Dänzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Jason E. Stewart" wrote: > > Any chance you also switched to the new input layer at that time? Ummm Yes. (he says sheepishly, expecting the axe to fall any sec.) Good lord, don't tell me this is a FAQ jas.

Re: XF4.0: Bad key release events for meta/control

2001-04-05 Thread Michel Dänzer
"Jason E. Stewart" wrote: > > Any chance you also switched to the new input layer at that time? > > Ummm Yes. (he says sheepishly, expecting the axe to fall any > sec.) > > Good lord, don't tell me this is a FAQ I don't think so, no worries. It's just that my keyboard has also bee

Re: PB2400 pmud/kernel problem: lost interrupt

2001-04-05 Thread Patrice LaFlamme
I've a similar problem (that almost cost me my sanity a few minutes ago when my powerbook3400 wouldn't boot up, the very same pb that contained my very important project to be handed in tomorrow) Basically, if I disconnect it from the ac adapter and put it to sleep or wake it up, it won't wake up

Re: new installation on 4400/200

2001-04-05 Thread Andrew Sharp
Well, not really. I have a machine with only 7.5.2 on it, and was able to get stuffit and bootx on there. You just have to use the right version of stuffit. They have many on their ftp site. The fight is not won, however, until you can get it onto the mockos partition, unless you're downloading

Re: External Monitor under Pismo

2001-04-05 Thread Jason E. Stewart
"Michel Dänzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Jason E. Stewart" wrote: > > > > > Should I just use apt-get to grab the server source, or do I need Ani > > > > Joshi's tree especially? > > > > > > Both should be more or less equivalent. The best would of course be to get > > > it from CVS. > > >

Re: XF4.0: Bad key release events for meta/control

2001-04-05 Thread Jason E. Stewart
"Michel Dänzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Jason E. Stewart" wrote: > > > Good lord, don't tell me this is a FAQ > > I don't think so, no worries. Whew!! No embarassment this time ;-) > It's just that my keyboard has also been acting strangely (no events > when I release keys, ...) sin

Re: External Monitor under Pismo

2001-04-05 Thread Michel Dänzer
"Jason E. Stewart" wrote: > > > > > Should I just use apt-get to grab the server source, or do I need > > > > > Ani Joshi's tree especially? > > > > > > > > Both should be more or less equivalent. The best would of course be to > > > > get it from CVS. > > > > > > Fine by me. What repository shoul

Re: PB2400 pmud/kernel problem: lost interrupt

2001-04-05 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
>I've a similar problem (that almost cost me my sanity a few minutes >ago when my powerbook3400 wouldn't boot up, the very same pb that >contained my very important project to be handed in tomorrow) > >Basically, if I disconnect it from the ac adapter and put it to sleep >or wake it up, it won't wa

Re: new installation on 4400/200

2001-04-05 Thread Adam C Powell IV
Andrew Sharp wrote: > Well, not really. I have a machine with only 7.5.2 on it, and was > able to get stuffit and bootx on there. You just have to use the > right version of stuffit. They have many on their ftp site. Really? What's the right version? I could only find the most recent, which

Re: PB2400 pmud/kernel problem: lost interrupt

2001-04-05 Thread Patrice LaFlamme
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:35:12PM +0200 or thereabouts, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > Did you always have this behaviour, or is this specific to recent kernels ? > > Do you have a reference to a kernel version without this problem ? h 2.2.18pre21 and 2.2.19. That's what I remember for

Re: External Monitor under Pismo

2001-04-05 Thread Jason E. Stewart
"Michel Dänzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Jason E. Stewart" wrote: > > > Ok. grabbed it. Now all I really need to build is just the Rage128 > > driver, right? I don't have to build the entire system. Do you know > > what I need to comment out in the config files to just build the > > minimum

Re: new installation on 4400/200

2001-04-05 Thread Philipp Kaeser
hej, > i now have the box right beside me, it has macos 7.5.3 > loaded on its single HD the bootx .sit file is on the > cdrom but it is not recognized by macos I suppose you already installed the StuffIt Expander? (When I installed debian first on the PowerPC it took me about two days to figur

Re: pmud / harddisk / kernel problem

2001-04-05 Thread Philipp Kaeser
hiyo, > Another interesting thing about the current implementation of sleep > on the TiPB is that I noticed that the LCD screen is still on (i.e. I > can see windows) even though the backlight goes off and the sleep > light comes on. BTW, I did confirm that it works for me under X, as > has been

Re: pmud / harddisk / kernel problem

2001-04-05 Thread Wilhelm Fitzpatrick
> It looks sometimes like there are still windows present, > but I don't know if this is rather a "feature" of TFT-displays > that the pixels retain at the state they've been unless > switched to another color; thus, if there's some light This may be the case... I know I don't see any "ghost" win

Re: new installation on 4400/200

2001-04-05 Thread Andrew Sharp
I uploaded some more stuff to that location. Like this (s): http://www.netfall.com/powerpc/stuffit_expander_55.bin Even a Linux unstuffit x86 .deb which is very funky. Read the readme. One of the funkiest parts is that every time I run dselect, it ejects this package from my system. Oh we

Ancient date on TiBook (Was: Titanium trackpad blues)

2001-04-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:00:58AM -0700, natural.resonance wrote: [cut] > > I thought adb was related to macintosh input devices. If not, what is it? > > it provides access to the raw adb bus as far as i understand, pre > input layer the mouse was at /d

Re: new installation on 4400/200

2001-04-05 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 03:26:10PM +0200, Bruno Waes wrote: > > i now have the box right beside me, it has macos 7.5.3 loaded on its single > HD > the bootx .sit file is on the cdrom but it is not recognized by macos proprietary fileformats, you need an extractor. > i need linux on this machine

Re: Ancient date on TiBook (Was: Titanium trackpad blues)

2001-04-05 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 11:57:37PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Okay, Ethan - seems you know something about time om PowerBooks. Do you > (or anyone else on this list) have a clue on this one also: > > When my TiBook dies fram a drained out battery, upon restart the time is > reset to 1933.

Re: pmud / harddisk / kernel problem

2001-04-05 Thread Jason E. Stewart
"Wilhelm Fitzpatrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > It looks sometimes like there are still windows present, > > but I don't know if this is rather a "feature" of TFT-displays > > that the pixels retain at the state they've been unless > > switched to another color; thus, if there's some light

Re: pmud / harddisk / kernel problem

2001-04-05 Thread Wilhelm Fitzpatrick
On 5 Apr 2001, Jason E. Stewart wrote: > Hmmm... using 'fblevel 0' I don't see any ghosts, but when I use > snooze I do... curiouser and curiouser. I just tested on my TiPB, with both fblevel and backlight (I assume they do the same thing), and setting the level to either 0 or off shows the same

Re: Ancient date on TiBook (Was: Titanium trackpad blues)

2001-04-05 Thread Jason E. Stewart
"Ethan Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > i am curious as to why these powerbooks don't have a small lithium > battery to solely maintain the clock when the main batteries fail? It would be so nice if they did. Every time this happens to me, it kills postgres, because the negativ

Linux runs "hot" on TiPB?

2001-04-05 Thread Wilhelm Fitzpatrick
Have other TiPB owners noticed the 'book heating up more under Linux than MacOS(X)? I especially notice the area around the ethernet connector gets toasty. Keeps my right hand warm ;) What's the status of power management in the current kernels? -raf

Re: Ancient date on TiBook (Was: Titanium trackpad blues)

2001-04-05 Thread Kevin van Haaren
At 2:06 PM -0800 4/5/01, Ethan Benson wrote: i am curious as to why these powerbooks don't have a small lithium battery to solely maintain the clock when the main batteries fail? Not just when the main batteries fail, i've had it reset on my iBook when I've had to reset via the little reset bu

Re: Ancient date on TiBook (Was: Titanium trackpad blues)

2001-04-05 Thread Kevin van Haaren
At 4:28 PM -0700 4/5/01, Jason E. Stewart wrote: It would be so nice if they did. Every time this happens to me, it kills postgres, because the negative dates corrupt the pg_control file. Luckily I have a spare, uncorrupted one lying around for just such an occasion, but man, the firs

Re: Ancient date on TiBook (Was: Titanium trackpad blues)

2001-04-05 Thread Jason E. Stewart
"Kevin van Haaren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > At 4:28 PM -0700 4/5/01, Jason E. Stewart wrote: > what about an init script that runs just after the network is up, but > before postgres, that checks the date and if it's < 2001 force it to > 1/1/2001 then run ntpdate to get the real date? Hmmm

Re: External Monitor under Pismo

2001-04-05 Thread Jason E. Stewart
"Michel Dänzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Jason E. Stewart" wrote: > > Yes. Note that the current trunk doesn't contain CRTOnly anymore in "favour" > of a "UseBIOSDisplay" option (very portable ;). I suggest getting the > xf-4_0_2-branch . Yeah!!! It's done!!! I don't want to mess up my ex

Re: Ancient date on TiBook (Was: Titanium trackpad blues)

2001-04-05 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 05:31:27PM -0500, Kevin van Haaren wrote: > At 4:28 PM -0700 4/5/01, Jason E. Stewart wrote: > >It would be so nice if they did. Every time this happens > >to me, it kills postgres, because the negative dates corrupt the > >pg_control file. Luckily I have a spare

Re: Ancient date on TiBook (Was: Titanium trackpad blues)

2001-04-05 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 04:43:46PM -0700, Jason E. Stewart wrote: > "Kevin van Haaren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > At 4:28 PM -0700 4/5/01, Jason E. Stewart wrote: > > what about an init script that runs just after the network is up, but > > before postgres, that checks the date and if it's

Re: External Monitor under Pismo

2001-04-05 Thread Michel Dänzer
"Jason E. Stewart" wrote: > I don't want to mess up my existing configuration so I only want to > 'make install' if I can get it to happily install someplace other than > /usr/X11R6/* You'd have to set ProjectRoot in host.def before the build. > Shouldn't I just need to install > > xc/programs

Re: Ancient date on TiBook (Was: Titanium trackpad blues)

2001-04-05 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 05:28:14PM -0500, Kevin van Haaren wrote: > At 2:06 PM -0800 4/5/01, Ethan Benson wrote: > >i am curious as to why these powerbooks don't have a small lithium > >battery to solely maintain the clock when the main batteries fail? > > Not just when the main batteries fail, i'

mtools

2001-04-05 Thread Andre Berger
I have a problem concerning mtools (potato/ppc, 2.2.19pre17, PB 3400). The first time I do "mdir", everything's fine. But the second time I always get "Can't open /dev/fd0: device or ressource busy. Cannot initialize 'A:'", until I reboot. Andre Berger[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Ancient date on TiBook (Was: Titanium trackpad blues)

2001-04-05 Thread Kevin van Haaren
At 3:40 PM -0800 4/5/01, Ethan Benson wrote: On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 05:28:14PM -0500, Kevin van Haaren wrote: > At 2:06 PM -0800 4/5/01, Ethan Benson wrote: > >i am curious as to why these powerbooks don't have a small lithium > >battery to solely maintain the clock when the main batteries fa

Re: new installation on 4400/200

2001-04-05 Thread Peter Cordes
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 01:58:57PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > if you are lucky all you need to change is the boot-device variable, > like this: > > nvsetenv boot-device "$(ofpath /dev/sda)0" > > try ofpath /dev/sda first to see if it supports that machine, ofpath > supports most oldworlds but i

Re: External Monitor under Pismo

2001-04-05 Thread Peter Cordes
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:28:59AM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote: > "Jason E. Stewart" wrote: > > > I don't want to mess up my existing configuration so I only want to > > 'make install' if I can get it to happily install someplace other than > > /usr/X11R6/* > > You'd have to set ProjectRoot in hos

debian-powerpc: snmp broken in testing

2001-04-05 Thread Brendan J Simon
It seems that snmp/snmpd is broke in testing. The new version of the libsnmp aren't available for some reason. I'm not sure what the status of snmp is in unstable but I thought that nothing was suppossed to enter testing unless it had no problems in unstable for at least two weeks. Is anyo

Re: Ancient date on TiBook (Was: Titanium trackpad blues)

2001-04-05 Thread Peter Cordes
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 05:31:27PM -0500, Kevin van Haaren wrote: > what about an init script that runs just after the network is up, but > before postgres, that checks the date and if it's < 2001 force it to > 1/1/2001 then run ntpdate to get the real date? I've got an x86 laptop that sets its

Re: External Monitor under Pismo

2001-04-05 Thread Steven Hanley
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:28:59AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > You'd have to set ProjectRoot in host.def before the build. it is detailed nicely on http://dri.sourceforge.net/doc/DRIcompile.html which also mentions 9.3 Update Locale Information To update your X locale information do the fol