Re: switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-15 Thread benh
>As far as I can tell, this problem could only be solved by continuing to >provide separate keymaps for Intel and Mac, at least for non-US >keyboards. Yes, it's necessary to ship both four countires where the layout differ. Note that Linux keycodes are still a good thing for other reasons, one be

Re: switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-12 Thread Derek Homeier
On Monday, June 11, 2001, at 04:29 PM, Michel Lanners wrote: At one point, there was an inversion of some mode shift keys in some keymaps (my memory is fuzzy...). Have you tried all the different mode keys? Basically, on the PB there are only Opt and Cmd available. I have not experimented a

Re: switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-12 Thread Stefan Haller
Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am wondering if there is any reason we should not switch woody to > use linux keycodes by default and finally abandon the adb keycodes? If this means that on my German keyboard I have to type special characters such as { } [ ] \ | etc with the Intel k

Re: switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-12 Thread Michel Lanners
On 10 Jun, this message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] echoed through cyberspace: > Thanks, I checked the qwertz/mac-de-latin1.kmap and > de-latin1-nodeadkeys.kmap, > and was unable to produce any of the special (modeshift) characters with > them. > As mentioned in the other thread Re: special sybols

Re: switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-10 Thread derek
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 02:29:33PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 12:10:57PM -0400, Derek Homeier wrote: > > > Yeah, that's probably a matter of taste, but a more substantial issue > > might be if there are localized Linux-keymaps available for Apple keyboards? > > I have onl

Re: switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-08 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Michael Schmitz wrote: > > > > I am all for this - APUS not having Linux keycodes yet is not an issue, > > > > it > > > > will keep Amiga keycodes, right? > > > > > > I don't know. Should APUS start using Linux keycodes too? > > >

Re: switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 08:18:57PM -0400, Adam Goode wrote: > Yes, I think that this is a great idea. I've been using i386 keycodes > for a few months now, and it's nice to have ctrl-alt-del work properly. > > The only problems I see with this: > > * On Apple keyboards (USB or ADB), this swaps t

Re: switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-07 Thread Wilhelm Fitzpatrick
> interesting.. running showkey on both my x86 and powerpc the arrow > keys are producing the exact same keycodes. this is 2.2.19. i don't > see why X would have a problem.. are you sure this is still the case? > (i don't run X on powerpc) Surely so. I have X 4.0.3 from testing, and am using li

Re: switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-07 Thread Adam Goode
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 06:14:45PM -0700, Wilhelm Fitzpatrick wrote: > ... > > to my .gnomerc so that up and down arrows would auto-repeat. Doubtless > there is some better solution, but I was not able to find it, even after > trolling through ML archives and various HOWTOs. Here is the relevant

Re: switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-07 Thread Adam Goode
Yes, I think that this is a great idea. I've been using i386 keycodes for a few months now, and it's nice to have ctrl-alt-del work properly. The only problems I see with this: * On Apple keyboards (USB or ADB), this swaps the "natural" position of alt (option) and meta (Apple). I have no pro

switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-07 Thread Ethan Benson
Hi, I am wondering if there is any reason we should not switch woody to use linux keycodes by default and finally abandon the adb keycodes? AFAICT all that needs to be changed is dbootstrap to use i386 keymaps on macs, the kernel-images to turn off CONFIG_MAC_ADBKEYCODES, and console-* to choo

Re: switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-07 Thread Michel Lanners
On 5 Jun, this message from Ethan Benson echoed through cyberspace: > I am wondering if there is any reason we should not switch woody to > use linux keycodes by default and finally abandon the adb keycodes? There should be none, except maybe MOL: last time I checked (which was a few months ag

Re: switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 08:37:29AM +0200, Michel Lanners wrote: > On 5 Jun, this message from Ethan Benson echoed through cyberspace: > > I am wondering if there is any reason we should not switch woody to > > use linux keycodes by default and finally abandon the adb keycodes? > > There should

Re: switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-07 Thread Derek Homeier
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 04:42:34PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 08:18:57PM -0400, Adam Goode wrote: > > Yes, I think that this is a great idea. I've been using i386 keycodes > > for a few months now, and it's nice to have ctrl-alt-del work properly. > > > > The only problem

Re: switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-07 Thread Otto Wyss
> > Keeping these in mind, I suggest that you go ahead with this change. > > (And maybe figure out what's wrong with xkb?) > > theres one vote in favor > Up to now I'm not using Linux on my PowerMac for various reasons, so I don't have immediate experience. As far as I know the keycodes of an USB

Re: switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 12:10:57PM -0400, Derek Homeier wrote: > Yeah, that's probably a matter of taste, but a more substantial issue > might be if there are localized Linux-keymaps available for Apple keyboards? > I have only seen international (well, german, at least) keymaps that put > the cha

Re: switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-07 Thread Michel DŠnzer
Ethan Benson wrote: > I am wondering if there is any reason we should not switch woody to > use linux keycodes by default and finally abandon the adb keycodes? > > AFAICT all that needs to be changed is dbootstrap to use i386 keymaps > on macs, the kernel-images to turn off CONFIG_MAC_ADBKEYCODES

Re: switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 12:11:51PM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote: > Ethan Benson wrote: > > > I am wondering if there is any reason we should not switch woody to > > use linux keycodes by default and finally abandon the adb keycodes? > > > > AFAICT all that needs to be changed is dbootstrap to use i

Re: switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-07 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 12:11:51PM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote: > > Ethan Benson wrote: > > > > > I am wondering if there is any reason we should not switch woody to > > > use linux keycodes by default and finally abandon the adb keycodes? > > > > > > AFAI

Re: switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-07 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Michel DŠnzer wrote: > Ethan Benson wrote: > > I am wondering if there is any reason we should not switch woody to > > use linux keycodes by default and finally abandon the adb keycodes? > > > > AFAICT all that needs to be changed is dbootstrap to use i386 keymaps > > on macs,

Re: switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-07 Thread Michael Schmitz
> > > > I am all for this - APUS not having Linux keycodes yet is not an issue, it > > will keep Amiga keycodes, right? > > I don't know. Should APUS start using Linux keycodes too? > > I hope it's not the same as using PC/AT keycodes for everything, since we > tried > that on m68k ages ago and it

Re: switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-07 Thread Michel DŠnzer
Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Michel DSnzer wrote: > > Ethan Benson wrote: > > > I am wondering if there is any reason we should not switch woody to > > > use linux keycodes by default and finally abandon the adb keycodes? > > > > > > AFAICT all that needs to be changed is dboo

Re: switching to linux keycodes in woody

2001-06-07 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Michael Schmitz wrote: > > > I am all for this - APUS not having Linux keycodes yet is not an issue, it > > > will keep Amiga keycodes, right? > > > > I don't know. Should APUS start using Linux keycodes too? > > > > I hope it's not the same as using PC/AT keycodes for everythin