I'm sure people would appreciate getting the 1.4 version
of the Sun JDK running more than being able to boot oldworld Macs
from a CD using only free software.
Quite. Priorities - recon there's more people who could _benefit_
from better Java than a slightly easier oldworld installation. The
On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 04:57:48AM -0400, Nathanael Hasbrouck wrote:
> This would be cool. Not real high priority, mind you, but might be
> beneficial in the long run. I'd volunteer to help but I can't code
> for my life. (At least not (in) anything useful.) Testing I could
> handle, though.
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 05:44:58 +
Michael Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Thomas Otto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You can even install OS X on UFS, yet I don't know if it is the plain
> > UFS from FreeBSD which Linux can read/write or something Apple
> >
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:57:09 +1000
Stewart Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 20:11, Arnaud Vandyck wrote:
> > I have a friend who did it but he had to make a FAT partition to share a
> > partition because linux does not write on usf. Is this statement still
> > true? Can m
They can't be faked, but they could be written properly. Apple didn't
provide their own drivers to third parties anyway. Anyone writing a
partitioning tool was supposed to provide their own. So, if you used
a third party product to setup your disk, you don't have the official
Apple drivers. This i
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 12:53:13PM -0400, Nathanael Hasbrouck wrote:
> I doesn't look like it'll work. See the other reply from Brad Boyer
> - he pointed out that the LinuxPPC discs were indeed burned as
> mac-bootable from Toast, hence they have Mac driver partitions (which
> I had forgotten t
I don't know what linuxppc does to make these cds bootable on oldworlds.
If it really only used miboot and no proprietary driver partitions, then
this would be great! Does someone else know more?
I doesn't look like it'll work. See the other reply from Brad Boyer
- he pointed out that the Linu
Am Mit, den 15.10.2003 schrieb Nathanael Hasbrouck um 21:05:
> >completly untested on oldworld. The first step would probably be to
> >build a kernel 2.4 (needed for devfs) which fits on a floppy, as we were
> >told that this is the only way to boot oldworlds without using
> >proprietary softwa
Yes, the LinuxPPC 2000 CDs are burned using Toast, which has the
drivers for making it bootable on an oldworld box. If you look at
the partition map on the CD (yes, Mac CDs are partitioned) you'll
find something like this (this is the LinuxPPC 2000 MacWorld edition):
Ok, that's what I was afrai
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 09:45:17PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 11:35:18PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> > On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 21:57, Rogério Brito wrote:
> > > On Oct 14 2003, David Röhr wrote:
> >
> > > I would like to test the new installer on my oldworld in the ne
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 08:47:01PM -0400, Nathanael Hasbrouck wrote:
> Ok, let me know if I'm completely wrong, but I have an old LinuxPPC
> (2KQ4) disc which will boot my 7600 and my parents iMac (rev. A) by
> holding down the 'c' key like any other bootable mac CD. It uses
> miboot/yaboot, an
(Oops, sent it to poster instead of list. Sorry.)
completly untested on oldworld. The first step would probably be to
build a kernel 2.4 (needed for devfs) which fits on a floppy, as we were
told that this is the only way to boot oldworlds without using
proprietary software.
Ok, let me kno
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 03:24:03AM -0200, Rogério Brito wrote:
> On Oct 14 2003, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> > The d-i team would appreciate your help. We seriously need testers on
> > oldworld, as none of us has access to such hardware. AFAIK d-i is
> > completly untested on oldworld. The first step
On Oct 14 2003, Chris Tillman wrote:
> I can test the installer using BootX, and will let you know as soon as
> I get it going. We still need to trim the kernel down to fit on a
> floppy;
If the floppy uses miboot, then things are a tiny bit easier, since the
kernel can be compressed. But trimming
On Oct 14 2003, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> The d-i team would appreciate your help. We seriously need testers on
> oldworld, as none of us has access to such hardware. AFAIK d-i is
> completly untested on oldworld. The first step would probably be to
> build a kernel 2.4 (needed for devfs) which fit
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Thomas Otto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can even install OS X on UFS, yet I don't know if it is the plain
> UFS from FreeBSD which Linux can read/write or something Apple
> modified and/or screwed up somewhat.
Linux has no problems reading a UFS partition conta
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 11:35:18PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 21:57, Rogério Brito wrote:
> > On Oct 14 2003, David Röhr wrote:
>
> > I would like to test the new installer on my oldworld in the near future
> > (and possibly help with reports). If anybody knows of any g
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 21:57, Rogério Brito wrote:
> On Oct 14 2003, David Röhr wrote:
> I would like to test the new installer on my oldworld in the near future
> (and possibly help with reports). If anybody knows of any gotchas, I'd
> love to know.
>
The d-i team would appreciate your help. We s
On Oct 14 2003, Thomas Otto wrote:
> Also MOL can't boot an OS X that is on a UFS partiion.
And IIRC, there are some programs that don't work correctly (e.g.,
Mozilla) when you're using an UFS filesystem.
[]s, Roger...
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On Oct 14 2003, David Röhr wrote:
> MacOS can't read ext2/ext3. But Linux can read USF and read/write to
> HFS+ (YOU SHOULDN'T!), but you can if you want :)
There is one plugin/kernel extension for macosx to be able to read/write
to ext2 partitions, but, IME, it is still quite immature and you sho
I have a friend who did it but he had to make a FAT partition to share a
partition because linux does not write on usf. Is this statement still
true? Can macosx r/o on ext2-3?
MacOS can't read ext2/ext3. But Linux can read USF
UFS, I assume. Linux can read it, see
/usr/src/linux/Documentatio
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 20:11, Arnaud Vandyck wrote:
> I have a friend who did it but he had to make a FAT partition to share a
> partition because linux does not write on usf. Is this statement still
> true? Can macosx r/o on ext2-3?
There is a ext2 driver floating around for MacOS X, and appare
Hi,
Arnaud Vandyck writes:
> I have a friend who did it but he had to make a FAT partition to
> share a partition because linux does not write on usf. Is this
> statement still true?
FAT is still your best bet when it comes to sharing a file system. In
principle, Linux can write HFS and HFS+,
Arnaud Vandyck wrote:
Last thing, I'll probably use Branden Robinson's help page to install,
but is there any documentation about the new debian-installer? Maybe I
can try it and help with a report?
You can find debian-installer images on
http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/powe
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 12:11:41PM +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote:
> I'm new to the list... I've just bought a powermbook G4 15'
A 15-foot PowerBook? Wow. Awesome. :)
> and would like (as a futur DD ;)) to install Debian on it but maybe
> also want to keep mac os x on it.
I'd be interested in
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 [12:11],
Arnaud Vandyck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm new to the list... I've just bought a powermbook G4 15' and would
> like (as a futur DD ;)) to install Debian on it but maybe also want to
> keep mac os x on it.
>
> I already installed Debian on
Arnaud Vandyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :
> Hi all,
Hi mew user ;-)
> I have a friend who did it but he had to make a FAT partition to share a
> partition because linux does not write on usf.
Linux can write on hfs+ file system with last benh kernel. But if
you want a readable partition for L
Hi all,
I'm new to the list... I've just bought a powermbook G4 15' and would
like (as a futur DD ;)) to install Debian on it but maybe also want to
keep mac os x on it.
I already installed Debian on a g3 at home (but only with Debian), and
this time, I'd like to have both systems... (
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