Re: dmesg kernel trace and base system without less/man (WAS: Re: debian-installer now available in Ports)

2017-05-03 Thread Linux User #330250
Hi! No, I did not. If I did, I surely would have to compile a recent kernel to see if the error is still present, which I was not prepared for since I only tested the installer for an unofficial Debian PowerPC netinst image. If time permits, I can still try a current kernel release (4.11; not

Re: dmesg kernel trace and base system without less/man (WAS: Re: debian-installer now available in Ports)

2017-05-02 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
Hi, This is not clear to me. Is this the stable kernel ? Did you send this information to: ? On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Linux User #330250 wrote: > BTW, I get this in dmesg output, on both the installer boot and when booting > the installed -smp kernel. > > [4.767389] [ cu

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-19 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Apr 14, 2017, at 8:58 AM, Riccardo Mottola > wrote: > > Hi, > > Mathieu Malaterre wrote: >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-grub/2015-03/msg00072.html >> >> NewWorld are supposed to work. So the question is: does anyone still >> has an OldWorld ? > > I have a couple, although I

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-18 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 11:05:10AM -0700, Herminio Hernandez Jr. wrote: > The problem is I do not think yaboot is maintained either. Well it does have the problem of being stuck with an old e2fs lib, which prevents using ext4 and maybe even some ext3 features on /boot. It does appear a bit bette

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-18 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 08:30:42PM +0300, Risto Suominen wrote: > I still have a few powerpc Macs, both OldWorld and NewWorld. > > The oldest one (6100/66) has no Open Firmware, the next one (7600/132) > has OF 1.x, then comes Beige G3 with OF 2.x, and the first NewWorld > machine Blue&White G3 wi

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-17 Thread Risto Suominen
2017-04-17 23:29 UTC+03.00, Linux User #330250 : > > CPU Bus ROM Software ROMWorld > ---+---+---+---+ > 68k NuBus Mac OS ROM (68k)-- -- > > PowerPC PCI System ROM (PPC)--

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-17 Thread Linux User #330250
Am 2017-04-14 um 11:33 schrieb Linux User #330250: To my understanding only NewWorld Macs are supported. But then, *all* NewWorld Macs are, and those are "old" too by now. This should include all Macs which are called "Power Mac" (before it was "Power Macintosh"). And AFAIK the last "Power Maci

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-15 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
That's not really a problem. The machines that need yaboot are legacy hardware. If the upstream sources or the Debian packaging itself requires some maintenance, I'm happy to pick the work. Adrian > On Apr 15, 2017, at 8:05 PM, Herminio Hernandez Jr. > wrote: > > The problem is I do not thin

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-15 Thread Herminio Hernandez Jr.
The problem is I do not think yaboot is maintained either. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 15, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Risto Suominen wrote: > > I still have a few powerpc Macs, both OldWorld and NewWorld. > > The oldest one (6100/66) has no Open Firmware, the next one (7600/132) > has OF 1.x, then c

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-15 Thread Risto Suominen
I still have a few powerpc Macs, both OldWorld and NewWorld. The oldest one (6100/66) has no Open Firmware, the next one (7600/132) has OF 1.x, then comes Beige G3 with OF 2.x, and the first NewWorld machine Blue&White G3 with OF 3.x. - the 6100 can only run MkLinux on top of Mach microkernel. -

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Btw, you can check /var/log/syslog from a second terminal (Alt+F2) to see if there are any error messages related to "choose-mirror". If you find something there, let us know. Adrian > On Apr 14, 2017, at 3:32 PM, Linux User #330250 > wrote: > >> Am 2017-04-14 um 13:08 schrieb John Paul Adri

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Linux User #330250 wrote: I use and used Debian on a G4 7450 CPU and I cannot see anything unusual concerning the CPU or bus speed. Everything seems to be initialized correctly, even thou with this new unstable build and kernel 4.9 a function called check_features triggers a CPU trap. Bu

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-14 Thread Linux User #330250
Am 2017-04-14 um 17:58 schrieb Riccardo Mottola: How is booting with a G4 processor? Last time I tried I had issues with the initialization of the CPU that did run at half speed! I use and used Debian on a G4 7450 CPU and I cannot see anything unusual concerning the CPU or bus speed. Everythin

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Linux User #330250 wrote: To my understanding only NewWorld Macs are supported. But then, *all* NewWorld Macs are, and those are "old" too by now. This should include all Macs which are called "Power Mac" (before it was "Power Macintosh"). And AFAIK the last "Power Macintosh G3" was one of

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-grub/2015-03/msg00072.html NewWorld are supposed to work. So the question is: does anyone still has an OldWorld ? I have a couple, although I am running urrently debian only on "new world". I want to revive them though, some

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
No worries. Thanks again for the testing and feedback. Highly appreciated! > On Apr 14, 2017, at 5:21 PM, Linux User #330250 > wrote: > > Correction. > > Selection a mirror from menu item "Choose a mirror of the Debian archive" -- > above "Install the base system" -- doesn't succeed. Never.

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-14 Thread Linux User #330250
Correction. Selection a mirror from menu item "Choose a mirror of the Debian archive" -- above "Install the base system" -- doesn't succeed. Never. Even after a base system is installed it failes. However, with the next item "Configure the package manager" again comes the question if I want

dmesg kernel trace and base system without less/man (WAS: Re: debian-installer now available in Ports)

2017-04-14 Thread Linux User #330250
BTW, I get this in dmesg output, on both the installer boot and when booting the installed -smp kernel. [4.767389] [ cut here ] [4.774668] WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 1 at /build/linux-dp17Ba/linux-4.9.18/arch/powerpc/lib/feature-fixups.c:208 check_features+0x38/0x7c

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-14 Thread Linux User #330250
Am 2017-04-14 um 13:08 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: On 04/14/2017 12:00 PM, Linux User #330250 wrote: Am 2017-04-14 um 10:25 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: Yes, the choose-mirror package currently doesn't support unstable [1]. You can easily enter a normal mirror URL like "ftp.debian

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 04/14/2017 12:00 PM, Linux User #330250 wrote: > Am 2017-04-14 um 10:25 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: >> Yes, the choose-mirror package currently doesn't support unstable [1]. You >> can easily enter a normal >> mirror URL like "ftp.debian.org" and "debian/" as a sub-directory and it >> s

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-14 Thread Linux User #330250
Am 2017-04-14 um 10:25 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: Yes, the choose-mirror package currently doesn't support unstable [1]. You can easily enter a normal mirror URL like "ftp.debian.org" and "debian/" as a sub-directory and it should work. Should I install again and try that or can we ju

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-14 Thread Linux User #330250
Am 2017-04-14 um 10:16 schrieb Mathieu Malaterre: On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Linux User #330250 wrote: One suggestion for further improvement: on an older installation I had used before powerpc was dropped (Debian 7.x, then testing) I was able to get grub2 running. It would be an idea to

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-14 Thread Linux User #330250
Am 2017-04-14 um 11:20 schrieb Mathieu Malaterre: Leaving it to the user is by far the best option ! I think so too. Having the choice between yaboot and GRUB2 makes the most sense. I think I am getting confused now, because on one page, we have Performa 4400, 54xx, 5500 listed as powermac-

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-14 Thread Linux User #330250
Am 2017-04-14 um 10:25 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: I used manual partitioning. This is the last Power Mac that is limited to LBA-28. I used a 250 GB IDE HDD, so I am above this limit. I am not sure if the automated partitioning will work around this? This probably applies to OpenFirmwar

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-14 Thread Risto Suominen
2017-04-14 12:20 UTC+03.00, Mathieu Malaterre : > > while (Performa)54xx,6400 is reported to have OF 2.0: > NewWorld machines have at least OF 3.0. Risto

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-14 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 11:14 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 04/14/2017 11:05 AM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: >>> Does anyone know how well supported GRUB on powerpc is? Does it support all >>> PPC Macs or only newer >>> ones, e >> >> OldWorld will not work: >> >> https://lists.gnu.org/ar

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 04/14/2017 11:05 AM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: >> Does anyone know how well supported GRUB on powerpc is? Does it support all >> PPC Macs or only newer >> ones, e > > OldWorld will not work: > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-grub/2015-03/msg00072.html Yeah, I was actually about to a

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-14 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 10:25 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > Does anyone know how well supported GRUB on powerpc is? Does it support all > PPC Macs or only newer > ones, e OldWorld will not work: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-grub/2015-03/msg00072.html NewWorld are supposed

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello! On 04/14/2017 10:04 AM, Linux User #330250 wrote: > I burned a CD-R with it and tested booting it on my Power Mac G4 Quicksilver > (2001, Dual). > I chose "expert" at the prompt. All seems to be working. Great! > The graphics card is a Mac-flashed Nvidia GeForce 6200 (NV44A), connected v

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-14 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Linux User #330250 wrote: > One suggestion for further improvement: on an older installation I had used > before powerpc was dropped (Debian 7.x, then testing) I was able to get > grub2 running. It would be an idea to have grub2 as an alternative to yaboot > durin

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-14 Thread Linux User #330250
Am 2017-04-13 um 09:09 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 04/12/2017 09:34 PM, Steven Chamberlain wrote: You can find the .iso images within each job's workspace e.g.: http://jenkins.kfreebsd.eu/jenkins/view/cd/job/debian-cd_sid_hurd-i386/ws/b

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-13 Thread luigi burdo
Thanks for the great news! Luigi Da: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz Hi! Thanks to the recent efforts within the Debian Ports projects, debian-installer is finally available for the Debian Ports architectures [1]. Previously, the installer images had to be built

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-13 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 04/12/2017 09:34 PM, Steven Chamberlain wrote: > You can find the .iso images within each job's workspace e.g.: > http://jenkins.kfreebsd.eu/jenkins/view/cd/job/debian-cd_sid_hurd-i386/ws/build/ Ok, great. So, powerpc users have a way of perform

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-12 Thread Steven Chamberlain
I've set up some additional jobs at http://jenkins.kfreebsd.eu/jenkins/view/cd/ and after much trial-and-error, there are now (untested) sid netinst images built for: hurd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 powerpc You can find the .iso images within each job's workspace e.g.: http://jenkins.k

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-12 Thread Jonathan Haack
I would be willing to help with ppc and ppc64. I am just a self-trained sysadmin, however, so I cannot guarantee it will be quick or easy, but I use ppc machines as project machines all the time and so I want to help. I will read the resources below. Please email me next steps. Jonathan j

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 01:55:08PM +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote: >John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> Thus, I was wondering whether any volunteers would be willing to help >> building >> ISO images for the various architectures. > >I'm already doing this for kfreebsd-amd64, but only the jessie-

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Steven Chamberlain, on mer. 12 avril 2017 13:55:08 +0100, wrote: > I expect there might be problems trying to build linux arches from a > kfreebsd host. But we should try to find out, and then maybe fix it. FWIW, I have been building hurd-i386 images from a linux box for a long time without probl

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-12 Thread Steven Chamberlain
Hello, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Thus, I was wondering whether any volunteers would be willing to help building > ISO images for the various architectures. I'm already doing this for kfreebsd-amd64, but only the jessie-kfreebsd suite: http://jenkins.kfreebsd.eu/jenkins/view/cd/job/debian

debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-12 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi! Thanks to the recent efforts within the Debian Ports projects, debian-installer is finally available for the Debian Ports architectures [1]. Previously, the installer images had to be built manually because building on the buildds always required a testing repository to be available for a give