Re: on apple battery life

2005-01-25 Thread Joerg Sommer
Luis Claudio R. Goncalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > IIRC all the new laptops have battery life cycle counted in "number of > recharges". Some PCs have this limit set around 1000 recharges. > > Usually, if your laptop is AC plugged and your battery is fu

Re: on apple battery life

2005-01-23 Thread Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
Hi! IIRC all the new laptops have battery life cycle counted in "number of recharges". Some PCs have this limit set around 1000 recharges. Usually, if your laptop is AC plugged and your battery is full you will notice some recharge cycles (what means - your battery suffers a disch

on apple battery life

2005-01-22 Thread Mauro
"No it is best to use power as much as possible to save battery life. As long as the cable is plugged in the battery is not used, only recharged. At least this is my understanding of the principle. Modern batteries can be recharded even when the are not empty. Regards," I read som

Re: Getting longer battery life with laptop-mode (was: Re: Installing Debian using debian-sarge-netinst.iso (powerpc))

2004-08-15 Thread Matijs van Zuijlen
ys that laptop-mode should be used > with hdparm instead. Well, I wasn't aware of that, and it _was_ working fine here, until I rebooted yesterday: there were no more spindowns. I'm using hdparm now as well. It's a much cleaner solution, I think. > Does anybody else have commen

Re: Getting longer battery life with laptop-mode

2004-08-11 Thread Kiko Piris
On 11/08/2004 at 15:02 -0300, Rogério Brito wrote: > Does anybody else have comments on getting long battery life tweaking the > disk? Well, I mainly use it because my iBooks HD gets too hot these days. I could'nt tell you how much battery it saves. I use laptop-mode + cpudyn. The

Getting longer battery life with laptop-mode (was: Re: Installing Debian using debian-sarge-netinst.iso (powerpc))

2004-08-11 Thread Rogério Brito
mit interval for ext3 is 5 > seconds, which used to be hardcoded, but you can change that on recent > kernels with the commit option. I have commit=3600, for 1 hour > intervals. I am currently seeing how to get longer battery life on my old i386 laptop (and trying not to get crazy with my De

Re: Battery life on an iBook rev 2.2

2004-05-10 Thread Michael Schmitz
> > I don't understand what is occuring. Mine goes for about 3h30-4h00, with > > low backlight. Maybe your battery is badly calibrated > > Is there a way to re-calibrate the battery then? FWIW, the battery > usage seemed just fine under OSX. The testing I did was with the > backlight on the lowes

Re: Battery life on an iBook rev 2.2

2004-05-10 Thread Adam Israel
On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 03:52, Cedric Pradalier wrote: > According to Adam Israel, on Sun, 09 May 2004 18:55:53 -0500, > >I've got Debian sid installed on my iBook (G3, 800Mhz). > > > >Maybe I'm misunderstanding how power management works on the PowerPC, > >or maybe something is misconfigured. It s

Re: Battery life on an iBook rev 2.2

2004-05-10 Thread Cedric Pradalier
According to Adam Israel, on Sun, 09 May 2004 18:55:53 -0500, >I've got Debian sid installed on my iBook (G3, 800Mhz). > >Maybe I'm misunderstanding how power management works on the PowerPC, >or maybe something is misconfigured. It seems that the battery only >lasts for about 2 hours. I'll wat

Battery life on an iBook rev 2.2

2004-05-09 Thread Adam Israel
I've got Debian sid installed on my iBook (G3, 800Mhz). Maybe I'm misunderstanding how power management works on the PowerPC, or maybe something is misconfigured. It seems that the battery only lasts for about 2 hours. I'll watch the battery drain to around 85%, and then it drops to 0%. I've tr

Re: battery life

2003-05-08 Thread Michael Schmitz
> > Caution: last time I did that on the new battery pack, it reduced > > max_charge somewhat. > > Yes, every battery documentation says to _not_ deep discharge batteries > if you want to get good battery life. I wouldn't risk doing that with > new batteries. But if

Re: battery life

2003-05-08 Thread Mich Lanners
e the batteris are >> terminally dead ... > > Caution: last time I did that on the new battery pack, it reduced > max_charge somewhat. Yes, every battery documentation says to _not_ deep discharge batteries if you want to get good battery life. I wouldn't risk doing that with new batter

Re: battery life

2003-05-07 Thread Michael Schmitz
> >> Looks good to me... My TiBook is down to 1574 :-( > > > > Repeat the 'deep' discharge a few more times and check again. Might be > > necessary to do a PMU reset even (I'm sure I had a PMU reset in the > > meantime) > > > Well, deep (down to cutoff) discharge bumped max charge from 1745 to 1861

Re: battery life

2003-05-07 Thread Mich Lanners
On 29 Apr, this message from Michael Schmitz echoed through cyberspace: >> > I'll have to try that again now that battery life is degrading. Max >> > charge of 1745 is OK for Lombard, right? >> >> Looks good to me... My TiBook is down to 1574 :-( > > Rep

Re: battery life

2003-04-29 Thread Michael Schmitz
> > Yep, that's what I noticed as well (in MacOS, not Linux). What's the > > voltage calibration? My battery starts at a reading of 11911 ... > > I suppose, at least for my TiBook, that it's simply mV. That would match > the fully-charged/end-of-discharge voltages I see for my battery pack (4 > gra

Re: battery life

2003-04-28 Thread Mich Lanners
it then recharging. I wouldn't know for sure, but depending how both batteries are connected together, weird things could happen... although I imagine Apple's engineers be smart enough to couple both batteries via protection diodes preventing the lower-voltage battery discharging the higher-

Re: battery life

2003-04-28 Thread Michael Schmitz
pen with both batteries installed: with AC connected, at least the big one is continously discharging a bit then recharging. > > I'll have to try that again now that battery life is degrading. Max > > charge of 1745 is OK for Lombard, right? > > Looks good to me... My TiBoo

Re: battery life

2003-04-26 Thread Mich Lanners
ry soon > Not with battery life per se, but I did that sort of PMU reset on my > Lombard after it refused to charge the battery in the default bay, and > all was fine. > > I'll have to try that again now that battery life is degrading. Max > charge of 1745 is OK for Lom

Re: battery life

2003-04-07 Thread Michael Schmitz
> >http://ryoko.camperquake.de/solutions > > Anyone tested it. Is that working? Not with battery life per se, but I did that sort of PMU reset on my Lombard after it refused to charge the battery in the default bay, and all was fine. I'll have to try that again now that battery

Re: battery life

2003-04-02 Thread Jan-Hendrik Palic
On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 12:27:12AM +0100, Jan-Hendrik Palic wrote: >http://ryoko.camperquake.de/solutions Anyone tested it. Is that working? -- .''`.Jan-Hendrik Palic | : :' : ** Debian GNU/ Linux ** | ** OpenOffice.org ** ,.. ,.. `. `' http://www.debian.org | http://

Re: battery life

2003-03-23 Thread Mich Lanners
% charge. Well, it goes on for some time... I stopped it after 10 minutes or so, because I was afraid of a deep discharge of the battery (below rated end-of-discharge). Indeed, I did regain a few percent of max_charge: pooh:~# cat battery-life 20030101 max_charge : 2376 20030302 max_charge : 2

Re: battery life

2003-03-22 Thread Mich Lanners
Hi all, Here's more battery-related info: On 22 Mar, this message from Clemens Mangler echoed through cyberspace: > http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449 i read it very > quickly, but it might be useful! it describes how to reset the pmu Another interesting read is this: http:/

Re: battery life

2003-03-22 Thread Clemens Mangler
hi! i found an article on a german mac site about one week ago. there was a report about apple users, who had problems with ibook batteries and had them replaced by apple. there was also a link to apple's discussion site http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449 i read it very quickly, b

Re: battery life

2003-03-20 Thread Jan-Hendrik Palic
Hi .. On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 12:18:41AM +0100, Jan-Hendrik Palic wrote: >Hi .. > >On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 12:05:27AM +, Gimli wrote: >>i know this is not the apropriate list but i wanted to ask if anyone is >>having problems with the ibook's battery. >>i would also like to ask if someone c

Re: battery life

2003-03-20 Thread Jan-Hendrik Palic
Hi .. On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 12:05:27AM +, Gimli wrote: >i know this is not the apropriate list but i wanted to ask if anyone is >having problems with the ibook's battery. >i would also like to ask if someone could recomend some links on the >subject. There was an article in the internet

Re: battery life

2003-03-20 Thread Mich Lanners
On 20 Mar, this message from Michel Dänzer echoed through cyberspace: > On Don, 2003-03-20 at 11:42, Edward G. Speyer wrote: >> Note how my max_charge has dropped from 3404 to 2874. Should I be >> alarmed or is this just the PMU giving me dodgy statistics? (It does >> seem odd how max_charge on

Re: battery life

2003-03-20 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Don, 2003-03-20 at 11:42, Edward G. Speyer wrote: > > http://www-stu.cai.cam.ac.uk/~egs21/iBook-battery-log.gz > > Note how my max_charge has dropped from 3404 to 2874. Should I be alarmed > or is this just the PMU giving me dodgy statistics? (It does seem odd how > max_charge only drops w

Re: battery life

2003-03-20 Thread Edward G. Speyer
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Chris Tillman wrote: > On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 12:05:27AM +, Gimli wrote: > > i know this is not the apropriate list but i wanted to ask if anyone is > > having problems with the ibook's battery. > > i would also like to ask if someone could recomend some links on the > >

Re: battery life

2003-03-19 Thread Chris Tillman
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 12:05:27AM +, Gimli wrote: > i know this is not the apropriate list but i wanted to ask if anyone is > having problems with the ibook's battery. > i would also like to ask if someone could recomend some links on the > subject. Search the list archives for posts on bat

battery life

2003-03-19 Thread Gimli
i know this is not the apropriate list but i wanted to ask if anyone is having problems with the ibook's battery. i would also like to ask if someone could recomend some links on the subject. thx Gimli

Re: ibooks battery life

2003-03-11 Thread David MENTRE
Clemens Mangler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > i tried to tweak my powersetting to make ibooks battery last > longer. how can i check weather the disk spins down or not? See this article : http://bulmalug.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=1511 Best regards, d. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ibooks battery life

2003-03-11 Thread Clemens Mangler
hi list! i tried to tweak my powersetting to make ibooks battery last longer. how can i check weather the disk spins down or not? the commit interval is set to 5 sec. will this prevent the disk from spinning down? thanks clemens

Re: Mysterious drive access and battery life

2002-12-23 Thread Michel Lanners
On 23 Dec, this message from Michael Schmitz echoed through cyberspace: >> - put the pmud socket somewhere else than the default /etc/power/apm. >> This was being read all the time by asapm displaying bat status: > > Use battery status apps that read from /proc/apm, rather. Ah, yes, but that w

Re: Mysterious drive access and battery life

2002-12-23 Thread Michael Schmitz
> - put the pmud socket somewhere else than the default /etc/power/apm. > This was being read all the time by asapm displaying bat status: Use battery status apps that read from /proc/apm, rather. Michael

Re: Mysterious drive access and battery life

2002-12-21 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sam, 2002-12-21 at 08:59, Mark Williams wrote: > On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:04:08 +0100 (CET) > Michel Lanners <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Besides the usual suspects like syslog (adding a '-' in front of the > > file name doesn't sync the disk on every write), I did the following: > > > >

Re: Mysterious drive access and battery life

2002-12-21 Thread Mark Williams
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:04:08 +0100 (CET) Michel Lanners <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Besides the usual suspects like syslog (adding a '-' in front of the > file name doesn't sync the disk on every write), I did the following: > > - tune bdflush: add to /proc/sysctl.conf: > > # Tune bdflush: >

Re: Mysterious drive access and battery life

2002-12-21 Thread Mark Williams
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:04:08 +0100 (CET) Michel Lanners <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Besides the usual suspects like syslog (adding a '-' in front of the > file name doesn't sync the disk on every write), I did the following: > > - tune bdflush: add to /proc/sysctl.conf: > > # Tune bdflush: > v

Re: Mysterious drive access and battery life

2002-12-18 Thread Michel Lanners
On 17 Dec, this message from Mark Williams echoed through cyberspace: > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:47:35 -0800 > Michael Hope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> 1. Most accesses are due to updating the file access time. Turning >> this off gets rid of alot of redundant writes. To turn it off, add th

Re: Mysterious drive access and battery life

2002-12-17 Thread Michael Hope
On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 06:52 PM, Mark Williams wrote: Thanks for your response! I added noatime to the relevant fstab line: /dev/hda11 / ext2errors=remount-ro,noatime 0 1 but the drive still clicks to life every now and then. This is no good! Wil

Re: Mysterious drive access and battery life

2002-12-17 Thread Mark Williams
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:47:35 -0800 Michael Hope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Mark. I had a fiddle with my machine a month ago, and here's what I > found: > > 1. Most accesses are due to updating the file access time. Turning > this off gets rid of alot of redundant writes. To turn it off

Re: Mysterious drive access and battery life

2002-12-17 Thread Michael Hope
accordance with the information on http://bulmalug.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=1511 and http://bulmalug.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=1481&nIdPage=5, I was able to get pmud working. However, the hard drive is accessed once every couple of seconds, preventing it from spinning down properly. This

Mysterious drive access and battery life

2002-12-17 Thread Mark Williams
on on http://bulmalug.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=1511 and http://bulmalug.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=1481&nIdPage=5, I was able to get pmud working. However, the hard drive is accessed once every couple of seconds, preventing it from spinning down properly. This knocks a good hour or so off my batte

Re: Ibook/TiBook performance/battery life

2002-10-31 Thread Claas Langbehn
> > Suspend Mode is why I love the iBook :) > Suspend is not iBook specific. It is even not Apple specific. Right, but it works very good. I have seen some PC Notebooks whose suspend was not as good as on my iBook, but it could also have been due to their poor OS :) And PC-Notebook-Users usu

Re: Ibook/TiBook performance/battery life

2002-10-30 Thread christophe barbe
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 06:08:10PM +0100, Claas Langbehn wrote: > > How > > is the boot up time? Same for powerbook also. > > The booting up time is about the same compared with an > ordinary computer. > But I usually don't have to boot the iBook a lot, > since the powermanagement works fine. Y

Re: Ibook/TiBook performance/battery life

2002-10-30 Thread Vincent Bernat
gt; I was wondering how thier performance and battery life were under linux. > Approx. how many hours can you get doing light work( typing, etc)? How > much watching DVDs(or any other high optical usage)? How about > Divx?(or any other high cpu usage)? iBook2 700: DivX is much easier to decod

Re: Ibook/TiBook performance/battery life

2002-10-30 Thread Claas Langbehn
Hi, > How > is the boot up time? Same for powerbook also. The booting up time is about the same compared with an ordinary computer. But I usually don't have to boot the iBook a lot, since the powermanagement works fine. You just close the lid when you don't need the iBook any more and open i

Re: Ibook/TiBook performance/battery life

2002-10-30 Thread Mij
machines (as you can understand looking their prices) > I was wondering how thier performance and battery life were under linux. > Approx. how many hours can you get doing light work( typing, etc)? How > much watching DVDs(or any other high optical usage)? How about Divx?(or > any other high

Ibook/TiBook performance/battery life

2002-10-30 Thread Mighty Germ
Hello, im new to Debian and linux in general, And I had a few questions. I am in the market for a laptop, and i'm considering both the Ibook and TiBook. I was wondering how thier performance and battery life were under linux. Approx. how many hours can you get doing light work( typing

Re: Short battery life on Powerbook Prismo

2002-10-16 Thread marshal
> "masik" == masik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> A funny thing that does happen is that on my battery meter >> under gkrellm, I see the numbers go down, and they match the >> LEDs on the battery. But the moment it hits around 50%, BLAM, >> goes to sleep... Any ideas about t

Re: Short battery life on Powerbook Prismo

2002-10-16 Thread Charles R. Twardy
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: }running (/etc/init.d/pmud stop). It looks like a calibration issue as }although the gkrellm battery plugin was blinking red my Pismo could }run happily for another hour or more. Pmud probably put the machine to Wow, that's good news! Good luck Marsha

Re: Short battery life on Powerbook Prismo

2002-10-16 Thread masik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > "Michel" == Michel Lanners <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > What you might also do is cycle the battery a few times, > > i.e. letting it drain and then immediatly recharging it, and > > this some 5 times in a row. > > I tried that. Doesn't seem to

Re: Short battery life on Powerbook Prismo

2002-10-16 Thread marshal
> "Charles" == Charles R Twardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * The most common cause of premature battery fatigue is... > OVERCHARGING > More charging when the battery is near capacity can start to > cook off electrolyte. That's why most serious battery

Re: Short battery life on Powerbook Prismo

2002-10-16 Thread Charles R. Twardy
I'll pass on what little battery wisdom I learned from some saavy friends and a bit of web research. Whatever you do, don't drain the batteries "all the way". Lots of people do that thinking it will purge them of "memory". * Most new batteries don't have memory effects. * The one

Re: Short battery life on Powerbook Prismo

2002-10-16 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
naling FS :-(. When I first noticed, the battery life was still half of the normal life (1.5 hour, yes, it's a very small slimline battery, the larger one does 4.5 hours), but now I have barely time to walk from power socket to power socket (4 minutes). I'm not alone with this problem, l

Re: Short battery life on Powerbook Prismo

2002-10-16 Thread marshal
> "Michel" == Michel Lanners <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 14 Oct, this message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] echoed > through cyberspace: >> Damn. I'll go searching though, since in Japan, they seem to >> keep old parts around. > Hmmm.. >> Any possibility of recondition

Re: Short battery life on Powerbook Prismo

2002-10-14 Thread Michel Lanners
On 14 Oct, this message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] echoed through cyberspace: > Damn. I'll go searching though, since in Japan, they seem to keep old > parts around. Hmmm.. > Any possibility of reconditioning the battery? Once upon a time, when I was sill using a Powerbook 520 under MacOS, there w

Re: Short battery life on Powerbook Prismo

2002-10-14 Thread Michael Flaig
Am Mon, 2002-10-14 um 03.09 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Hi all, > [...] > If anyone has any ideas, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. Hi! I had 2 battery packs in my pismo for the last 2 years. 3 - 4 month ago I got only 1 hour out of each ... instead of 4 hours each when they were new. I charded them

Re: Short battery life on Powerbook Prismo

2002-10-13 Thread marshal
> "Brian" == Brian D Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 10:09:44AM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: >> So the yesterday, I decided to bring it to work. >> Unfortunately, the battery died, or at least went low enough >> for pmud to put the computer

Re: Short battery life on Powerbook Prismo

2002-10-13 Thread Brian D. Hicks
On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 10:09:44AM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So the yesterday, I decided to bring it to work. Unfortunately, the > battery died, or at least went low enough for pmud to put the computer > to sleep, in around 45 minutes, maybe even less. > > I just wondering if this is a pr

Short battery life on Powerbook Prismo

2002-10-13 Thread marshal
Hi all, I have this 2 year old Powerbook G3 Firewire. For MOST of the 2 years, it's acted as a desktop (constantly plugged in, I put it to sleep before bed, etc.) but I do occationally want to lug it around. Of course, I'm running Debian on it. So the yesterday, I decided to bring it to work. U

Re: Battery Life for a 2400c

2002-05-06 Thread Philipp Kaeser
Hej Zach, > I'm curious about my 2400 that I just got. It seems that the battery > doesn't charge all the way, or perhaps it's the software that's > reading it (pmud). I haven't done a real thorough test to see how > long the book will run, but that'll come tonight. Anyhow, what I'm > lookin

Re: Battery Life for a 2400c

2002-05-05 Thread Michel Lanners
> I'm curious about my 2400 that I just got. It seems that the battery > doesn't charge all the way, or perhaps it's the software that's > reading it (pmud). I haven't done a real thorough test to see how > long the book will run, but that'll come tonight. Anyhow, what I'm > looking for is, h

Re: Battery Life for a 2400c

2002-05-05 Thread Rogério Brito
On May 05 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > once i heard that by running the battery all the way down, you can > get the battery to "forget" itself (and the charge level). and then > charging it normally. maybe it's one of those that has "memory", > then this will work. Well, I also read th

Re: Battery Life for a 2400c

2002-05-05 Thread eric . s . cote
On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 05:17:07PM -0500, Zach Lowry wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello all! > > I'm curious about my 2400 that I just got. It seems that the battery > doesn't charge all the way, or perhaps it's the software that's > reading it (pmud).

Battery Life for a 2400c

2002-05-04 Thread Zach Lowry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1     Hello all!     I'm curious about my 2400 that I just got. It seems that the battery doesn't charge all the way, or perhaps it's the software that's reading it (pmud). I haven't done a real thorough test to see how long the book will r