On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:14:59 +0200, Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> On 24 Jul 2003 at 8:52, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corse wrote:
>
>> Old news... also there was the even older A/UX, that Apple distributed
>> as
>> a SCSI hard disk!
>
> So you're saying history is just old news? Remarkable! :-)
on 03.7.23 11:14 PM, Jeroen Roovers at [EMAIL PROTECTED] was reported to
have writen:
> On 24 Jul 2003 at 8:52, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corse wrote:
>
>> Old news... also there was the even older A/UX, that Apple distributed as
>> a SCSI hard disk!
>
> So you're saying history is just old news?
On 24 Jul 2003 at 8:52, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corse wrote:
> Old news... also there was the even older A/UX, that Apple distributed
> as
> a SCSI hard disk!
So you're saying history is just old news? Remarkable! :-)
Jeroen
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 23:48:25 +, Andy Bastien wrote:
> We have reason to believe that on Wed Jul 16 Leandro Guimar?es Faria Corsetti
> Dutra wrote:
>> > BTW, someone said AIX doesn't run on an Apple. Someone once told me he'd
>> > tried it to see whether it would. His report, it did.
>>
>>
We have reason to believe that on Wed Jul 16 Leandro Guimar?es Faria Corsetti
Dutra wrote:
> > BTW, someone said AIX doesn't run on an Apple. Someone once told me he'd
> > tried it to see whether it would. His report, it did.
>
> URLs?
Back in 1996-97, Apple made the Network Server 500 and
Em Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:33:33 +0200, Jeroen Roovers escreveu:
> I think you hit the nail on the head here, Leandro.
Thanks, I don't hear that often... ;-)
> I just feel I need to add that my earlier comments about mainframes
> may have only confused the matter more, because IBM itself s
I think you hit the nail on the head here, Leandro.
I just feel I need to add that my earlier comments about mainframes
may have only confused the matter more, because IBM itself seems to
have mixed up many previously unambiguous naming conventions in
recent years. Of the 8-way system I referred t
Em Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:15:59 +0800, debia escreveu:
>> In that case, you simply missed the point. This is a workstation, and
>> a mainframe multiprocessor configuration with up to eight such
>> processors is not a myth: a quick search reveals a 1998 model with 8
>
> I know they exist, they sti
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> On 13 Jul 2003 at 4:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > > Say you have a ginormous rig standing in a clean room, that is
> > > business critical, runs a handful or even several dozens of
> > > (clustered) 604e processors. Say you want to develop and t
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Then I see this:
> http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/pseries/hardware/workstations/
>
>
> RS/6000 43P Model 150
> from $8,805.00 IBM Web price*
> Monitor not included
> Power, performance and expandability to fit your budget.
> · Choice of
On 13 Jul 2003 at 4:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Say you have a ginormous rig standing in a clean room, that is
> > business critical, runs a handful or even several dozens of
> > (clustered) 604e processors. Say you want to develop and test new
>
> This is not such a box. It's a desktop/d
Em Sun, 13 Jul 2003 04:31:20 +0800, debia escreveu:
>> The CPU is the least relevant part in a server nowadays. This is one of
>> the reasons why x86 is actually a bad choice for a server: it dedicate
>> design and operation resources to the wrong part of the system.
>
> This is a workstati
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003, Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> On 12 Jul 2003 at 21:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I have here a PowerMac 7300/200. It's CPU is, according to the kernel, a
> > PPC 604e at 200 Mhz.
> >
> > It's CPU performance is nothing flash, my Athlon beats it hands down as
> > I'd expect.
>
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003, [iso-8859-1] Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra wrote:
> Em Sat, 12 Jul 2003 21:06:25 +0800, debia escreveu:
>
> > Now, 250 Mhz isn't a lot more than 200 Mhz. Sure its disk is faster, and
> > its a more-nicely specced machine, but it still has basically the same
> > CPU as
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003, Simon Mushi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would surely imagine that teh RS/6000 is tons more scaleable than the
> powerMac or Athlon and would have fewer I/O bottlenecks. Tell me something
> how many 604e's are included in that $9K price.
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/pseries/ha
On 12 Jul 2003 at 21:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have here a PowerMac 7300/200. It's CPU is, according to the kernel, a
> PPC 604e at 200 Mhz.
>
> It's CPU performance is nothing flash, my Athlon beats it hands down as
> I'd expect.
>
> Then I see this:
> http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/
Em Sat, 12 Jul 2003 21:06:25 +0800, debia escreveu:
> Now, 250 Mhz isn't a lot more than 200 Mhz. Sure its disk is faster, and
> its a more-nicely specced machine, but it still has basically the same
> CPU as is in my six-year-old Powermac. about the same age as my Pentium
> II-233 system.
Hi,
I would surely imagine that teh RS/6000 is tons more scaleable than the
powerMac or Athlon and would have fewer I/O bottlenecks. Tell me something
how many 604e's are included in that $9K price.
Best,
simon
On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have here a PowerMac 7300/200. It'
I have here a PowerMac 7300/200. It's CPU is, according to the kernel, a
PPC 604e at 200 Mhz.
It's CPU performance is nothing flash, my Athlon beats it hands down as
I'd expect.
Then I see this:
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/pseries/hardware/workstations/
RS/6000 43P Model 150
f
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>
> http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/news/0,4153,1015836,00.html
>
>
>
>
bad link, sorry. Story is linked properly at linuxtoday.com
My article was meant to be provocative and certainly was. Of course, aside
from the pricing facts, everything was IMHO. Let's find a common ground
here. I think everyone can agree that buying PowerPC equipment "for running
Linux" directly from IBM is not cost effective.
As far as being "out of tou
> "Tom" == Tom Rini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Tom> Minor nit, that has been pointed out before. The Blue&White
Tom> G3 has: 1 66/33Mhz 32bit PCI slot (r128 in there by default)
Tom> 3 33Mhz 64bit PCI slots
Tom> It does indeed have 2 PCI buses, but still only 4 slots.
My b
On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Alexander S. Guy wrote:
> > "Phillip" == Phillip R Jaenke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Phillip> G3 has 'True66MHz' PCI, which doesn't exist as far as I'm
> Phillip> concerned, with the G3, due to the way the G3 was
> Phillip> designed and implemented. Power
> "Phillip" == Phillip R Jaenke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
This is kinda off topic, but no more than has been discussed so far,..
if anyone wants us to shut up, just holler...
Phillip> Never trust information to the uninitiated.
Phillip> This is wrong wrong wrong. First off, the *tr
"Phillip R. Jaenke" wrote:
> This is wrong wrong wrong. First off, the *truly* blatant error. IBM does NOT
> use SDRAM in the RS/6000. Period. Flat out WRONG and INCORRECT. They use ECC,
> which is about 3x as much as SDRAM anyways.
http://www.rs6000.ibm.com/hardware/workgroups/43p_150_specs.html
On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 06:51:00PM -0500, Jeramy B Smith wrote:
> > The claims about IBM there aren't too accurate. They're not so out of
> > touch. Look who they're selling rs6k's to. Big companies that want
> _full_
> > support 24/7 with AIX. They're willing to pay a lot for the support they
On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 06:22:57PM -0500, Jeramy B Smith wrote:
> > But are you considering different memory architectures, buses and
> > video cards? AFAIK these factor much more into the equipment prices than
> > clock speed or memory amount.
> >
> With the G3, you get Firewire, USB, and multipl
On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 04:39:33PM -0500, Jeramy B Smith wrote:
> In light of the recent board discussion, I decided to price some full
> PowerPC systems. Check it out at www.corplinux.com/powerpenguin if your
> interested.
Alternately, one of my preferred vendors for my home RS/6000's is a
compan
- Original Message -
From: Joel Klecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> That's not quite correct, the Blue & White PowerMac G3 has one
> 32-bit/66MHz PCI slot, and 3 64-bit/33MHz PCI slots.
> --
Even better. I wish they had a 64-bit 66mhz slot though. Gigabit ethernet
could really use that kind of b
gt;
To: PowerPC (Correio eletrônico)
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 7:02 PM
Subject: RES: Apple vs. IBM
> > 3. Sun Ultra5 machines (which start at $2400) outsell 43P150
> > machines by a
> > large margin.
>
> All right, but last time I searched Ultra5 was an IDE, limited
> u
I have to say, as someone who makes almost 90% of my money off AIX and Big Blue,
that while the same types of questions have always bugged me--why are Macs
cheaper when you get more? Why is IBM so out of touch with the 43P?--I have to
give credit where it is due to IBM. The fact of the matter is
> 3. Sun Ultra5 machines (which start at $2400) outsell 43P150
> machines by a
> large margin.
All right, but last time I searched Ultra5 was an IDE, limited
upgrade machine... 256 colors only!
> not workstations. If service and support are so expensive,
> they should be
> made an opti
At 18:22 -0500 1999-08-03, Jeramy B Smith wrote:
you only get PCI. The Apple has a True66mhz PCI which can be used for SCSI
or graphics depending on whether your running in workstation or server
configuration as well as the standard 33hz slots intel uses. Both systems
use 32bit PCI slots.
That'
> The claims about IBM there aren't too accurate. They're not so out of
> touch. Look who they're selling rs6k's to. Big companies that want
_full_
> support 24/7 with AIX. They're willing to pay a lot for the support they
> get from IBM.
>
1. Un*x workstations from IBM, Sun, SGI, and HP have l
The claims about IBM there aren't too accurate. They're not so out of
touch. Look who they're selling rs6k's to. Big companies that want _full_
support 24/7 with AIX. They're willing to pay a lot for the support they
get from IBM.
For Linux, that's way off base but they only recently turned to
Damn shopping cart, I tried the link on another computer and it actually
worked. I took away the atrocious links and just posted the nitty-gritty
details.
> Your link at IBM is broken, since it was for your personal shopping
> cart only.
>
> But are you considering different memory architectures,
> In light of the recent board discussion, I decided to price some full
> PowerPC systems. Check it out at
> http://www.corplinux.com/powerpenguin if your
> interested.
Your link at IBM is broken, since it was for your personal shopping
cart only.
But are you considering differen
In light of the recent board discussion, I decided to price some full
PowerPC systems. Check it out at www.corplinux.com/powerpenguin if your
interested.
Cheers.
Jeramy B Smith
BS AAS MCSE MCP+I
CLC - www.corplinux.com
PowerPenguin - www.corplinux.com/powerpenguin
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