; decided to remove Sven Luther from the kernel project.
And whyever that ? Do you have a single reason for this action ?
> The problems between Sven and the remain of the team did not decrease in
Can you tell me what those problems are ?
> the last months. He decided to ignore a Nack on
e if we can work around
those political hurdles. Please show that you can also provide positive
and constructive comments, and not just political rants, and participate
in that other thread.
/me is amazed how so many people ask me to not mention the ugly politcal
aspects, and engage in political ran
On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 06:23:28AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > You are joking, right ? Frans did not leave anything, he still rules
> > unopposed on d-i.
> [...]
>
> Whoah, whoah, whoah, take it somewhere else. This is exact
don't agree with you and that your
rants won't change that. I'm rellay tired of hearing this all over
again.
Gaudenz
On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 12:15:56PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 12:06:57PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Selon Sven
On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 12:06:57PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Selon Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 07:57:18AM +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
> > > But...
> > > Sven, I think it would be better to let the story rest in
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> You are joking, right ? Frans did not leave anything, he still rules
> unopposed on d-i.
[...]
Whoah, whoah, whoah, take it somewhere else. This is exactly why the
ban was put in place previously and if it's going to start back all over
agai
On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 08:05:03AM +, Cord Beermann wrote:
> Hallo! Du (Sven Luther) hast geschrieben:
>
> > Given that it was Frans Pop who started all this, that he was the one
> > asking for my expulsion from debian (which debian's leadership agreed
> > to), i
Selon Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 07:57:18AM +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
> > But...
> > Sven, I think it would be better to let the story rest in peace and to go on
> > and look forward instead looking backward. Nobody can change wha
Hallo! Du (Sven Luther) hast geschrieben:
> Given that it was Frans Pop who started all this, that he was the one
> asking for my expulsion from debian (which debian's leadership agreed
> to), i have little hope. Already in the thread starting in :
>
> http://lists.debian.
On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 07:57:18AM +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 12:57:34AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
>
> > > We just lifted the ban on Sven Luther on this list.
> > Thanks,
>
> Yes, great! :)
>
> > > As you might see in the A
On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 12:57:34AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > We just lifted the ban on Sven Luther on this list.
> Thanks,
Yes, great! :)
> > As you might see in the Archive of d-project the name of Sven is still
> > causing irritations, so we now run the ban-lif
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 10:43:01PM +, Cord Beermann wrote:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization: Debian - Listmaster
> X-message-Flag: Outlook : A program to spread viri, but it can do mail too.
>
> Hi.
>
> We just lifted the ban on Sven Luther on this list.
Th
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Organization: Debian - Listmaster
X-message-Flag: Outlook : A program to spread viri, but it can do mail too.
Hi.
We just lifted the ban on Sven Luther on this list.
Comments:
The Ban on d-project has been publical announced in
http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 05:07:10PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
>
> On Jul 22, 2007, at 5:44 AM, Robert Millan wrote:
>
> >
> >The listmasters required that some discussion be held, and once
> >finished they
> >be pointed at it, so they can decide wether to lift it or not.
>
> Robert,
>
> I thin
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Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi folks,
>
> Sven (CCed) asked me if I could do something to get his ban lifted on
> debian-powerpc as has happened on ocaml-list before. It is my understanding
> that Sven is actively participating in deb
Hi,
i guess its futile to search for someone being guilty. probably
everybody involved has had bad days writing emails.
since this ban happened, the amount of ppc machines running debian i
mostly install for friends has dropped to zero, leaving only a single
one of my own machines running debian-
On Jul 22, 2007, at 5:44 AM, Robert Millan wrote:
The listmasters required that some discussion be held, and once
finished they
be pointed at it, so they can decide wether to lift it or not.
Robert,
I think you can report to the listmasters that a discussion has been
held, and the opin
2007/7/23, Gunther Furtado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
2007/7/22, Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
As I understand it, this is a question from the listmasters to the
list. So as an user/member of the list my answer is yes, I think Sven
must stay/return.
I think I was not clear:
I think that the ba
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 07:42:18PM +0200, Simon Vallet wrote:
> Well, as a PPC user, I think Sven has been very helpful on
> debian-powerpc, and for the Debian PowerPC port in general. I don't
> particularly want to know who's the bad guy and who's the good one:
> this whole banning thing has IMO o
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:44:08 +0200
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sven (CCed) asked me if I could do something to get his ban lifted on
> debian-powerpc as has happened on ocaml-list before. It is my understanding
> that Sven is actively participating in debian-powerpc efforts, and so
I, for one, want to see the ban lifted. Sven is one of the few who has
made any effort to support IBM Power3 machines. On the one post I did
ask for help on, he was the only one to respond. So far, he has the
only kernel that will actually boot on my RS6000's. It would be nice if
the stock
2007/7/22, Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
The listmasters required that some discussion be held, and once finished they
be pointed at it, so they can decide wether to lift it or not.
As I understand it, this is a question from the listmasters to the
list. So as an user/member of the list
On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 05:26:55PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Peter Teunissen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > I see no reason to ban Sven completely from any debian lists and vote for
> > the ban to be lifted.
>
> Yea, that's nice. If you want to discuss Sven and his ban or whatever,
> take
* Gregory Seidman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Please read the original post that started this thread:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2007/07/msg00090.html
As I said to someone else:
No, I was trying to avoid it.
Erm, so the listmasters are being idiotic about it, how nice. Yeah, if
yo
On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 05:26:55PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Peter Teunissen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > I see no reason to ban Sven completely from any debian lists and vote for
> > the ban to be lifted.
>
> Yea, that's nice. If you want to discuss Sven and his ban or whatever,
> take
Hi folks,
I'm fairly new to Debian and this list, and I don't even know what all
this is about, but I'm involved in various other mailing lists which
sometimes have quite heated discussion, so let me just make a couple of
points:
** If a list is moderated, the usual procedure is to stop disc
Sven could be a useful participant in future powerpc support, if
allowed, as he has in the past.
I am not a Debian Developer, for lack of time to devote to the
project, but I am very concerned about the deterioration in powerpc
support. Allowing Sven to participate would be a step toward
* Peter Teunissen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I see no reason to ban Sven completely from any debian lists and vote for
> the ban to be lifted.
Yea, that's nice. If you want to discuss Sven and his ban or whatever,
take it up on an appropriate list (ie: not this one). The people who
can do som
On 22-jul-2007, at 12:20, Charles Plessy wrote:
Le Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 11:44:08AM +0200, Robert Millan a écrit :
Hi folks,
Sven (CCed) asked me if I could do something to get his ban lifted on
debian-powerpc
Hi,
I am very surprised of this ban as it was never announced. The
explanations
Le Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 11:44:08AM +0200, Robert Millan a écrit :
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Sven (CCed) asked me if I could do something to get his ban lifted on
> debian-powerpc
Hi,
I am very surprised of this ban as it was never announced. The
explanations from the listmasters clearly state that the
OMG this is still an issue.!.
You can praise yer bloddy moms for not living nearby, I would smack the whole
lot of you.
Bollocks!
On Sunday 22 July 2007 11:44, Robert Millan wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Sven (CCed) asked me if I could do something to get his ban lifted on
> debian-powerpc as has happen
Hi folks,
Sven (CCed) asked me if I could do something to get his ban lifted on
debian-powerpc as has happened on ocaml-list before. It is my understanding
that Sven is actively participating in debian-powerpc efforts, and so it would
be nice if he could write to this list as well.
The listmast
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