Re: yaboot installation media

2022-03-31 Thread Ben Westover
Hello, I've been able to get the G4 working again. The issue recognizing GRUB does not seem to be memory-related, as I tried each stick one at a time and was never able to boot to GRUB. This shows that unless they're all somehow faulty in the same exact way that manages to not affect normal opera

Re: yaboot installation media

2022-03-28 Thread Sam Imberman
Hi, I can confirm that I was able to boot from the image from a USB key using the line from Ben Westover in the previous message. A CD-RW and two USB keys failed to work, it worked on the third USB key -- who knows why. I have some slowness and error messages on boot ("ata1: SRST failed (errno=-16)

Re: yaboot installation media

2022-03-28 Thread Johannes Brakensiek
Am Sonntag, dem 27.03.2022 um 16:17 -0400 schrieb Jeffrey Walton: > I don't know about the G4's, but I know about the G5's. You cannot > boot a G5 from USB. You have to burn a CD and boot from the CD. Booting a G5 PowerMac 11,2 from USB works well, I don't know about the older ones. See this mail

Re: yaboot installation media

2022-03-27 Thread Ben Westover
Hello Sam, If I try to boot from Open Firmware, I try "boot usb1/disk@1:,\\grub.img" and the error after quite a long pause is "can't OPEN: usb1/disk@1:,\\grub.img Can't open device or file" Of course I can't rule out the possibility that I'm using Open Firmware wrong, after some searches of t

Re: yaboot installation media

2022-03-27 Thread Gabriel Paubert
On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 04:17:35PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 4:15 PM Sam Imberman wrote: > > > > Hi, > > I'm actually having more or less the same problem with my Powerbook G4 > > Aluminum. > > I am using the image from > > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/sn

Re: yaboot installation media

2022-03-27 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello Sam! On 3/27/22 22:14, Sam Imberman wrote: > I am using the image from > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2022-03-18/non-free/ , > which I burnt on a USB stick with "dd > if=./debian-11.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso of=/dev/sdg bs=1M" Please don't use these images, these are b

Re: yaboot installation media

2022-03-27 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 4:15 PM Sam Imberman wrote: > > Hi, > I'm actually having more or less the same problem with my Powerbook G4 > Aluminum. > I am using the image from > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2022-03-18/non-free/ , > which I burnt on a USB stick with "dd > if=

Re: yaboot installation media

2022-03-27 Thread Sam Imberman
Hi, I'm actually having more or less the same problem with my Powerbook G4 Aluminum. I am using the image from https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2022-03-18/non-free/ , which I burnt on a USB stick with "dd if=./debian-11.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso of=/dev/sdg bs=1M" When I boot the

Re: yaboot installation media

2022-03-26 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello Ben! On 3/25/22 21:48, Ben Westover wrote: > A thank you goes out to all the people who have attempted to help me. > In all the excitement of this endeavor, my G4's motherboard has died. I'm not surprised. > Based on previous discussion, I believe the culprit in its failure to > load GRUB

Re: yaboot installation media

2022-03-25 Thread Ben Westover
Hello, A thank you goes out to all the people who have attempted to help me. In all the excitement of this endeavor, my G4's motherboard has died. Based on previous discussion, I believe the culprit in its failure to load GRUB was the system's memory. Upon closer inspection of the machine duri

Re: yaboot installation media

2022-03-25 Thread Ben Westover
Hello, Bad memory modules can actually result in such weird behavior. We've seen similar reports before. When I have time, I'll run a memory test. Can this be done from OF? What commands should I use? You can also create a fresh chroot from unstable using debootstrap and that pivot the r

Re: yaboot installation media

2022-03-25 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello! On 3/25/22 12:48, Ben Westover wrote: >> What is more likely is that you have bad memory modules in your machines and >> Yaboot >> just happens to use different memory regions which is why it's not affected >> by the >> problem. > > Hmmm… this computer came from my High School's IT depar

Re: yaboot installation media

2022-03-25 Thread Ben Westover
Hello Adrian, What is more likely is that you have bad memory modules in your machines and Yaboot just happens to use different memory regions which is why it's not affected by the problem. Hmmm… this computer came from my High School's IT department, so its RAM was upgraded by High Schoole

Re: yaboot installation media

2022-03-24 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello Ben! On 3/25/22 01:00, Ben Westover wrote: > I haven't been able to get any GRUB installation media to work on my PowerMac > G4. > I've tried Debian, Gentoo, and Arch Linux, and every time it doesn't > recognize > GRUB at all. Even attempting to boot manually from Open Firmware just hangs

Re: yaboot installation media

2022-03-24 Thread Ken Cunningham
A previous blessed ISO (Apr 17 2021) booted my IMac G4 without any troubles. Then I just let all the defaults have their way with the machine, and wound up with a beautiful GRUB-booting system running debian 11 that has been running ever since. So there is no specific “G4” problem with GRUB….

Re: yaboot installation media

2022-03-24 Thread Ben Westover
In case it's useful, here's the exact system I have: https://everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/specs/powermac_g4_350.html It's running Open Firmware 3.1.1 (1.2f2 BootROM). This is what it came with, and I was unable to find any upgrades online for this particular model. -- Ben Westover si

Re: yaboot installation media

2022-03-24 Thread Ben Westover
Hello Jeffrey, Maybe you should try to reset the nvram? From the OF prompt, I believe the commands are reset-nvram and reset-all. Just tried that, unfortunately no effect. Thanks, -- Ben Westover OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: yaboot installation media

2022-03-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 8:28 PM Ben Westover > We're using grub-ieee1275, IEEE-1275 being the specification for Open > Firmware. There is no issue getting GRUB to run on my G3, and most > others are having success on their machines, but my G4 just refuses to > recognize GRUB in any way, only yaboot

Re: yaboot installation media

2022-03-24 Thread lkcl
try these https://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/yaboot-howto/ http://seb.france.free.fr/linux/ibookG4/iBookG4-howto-2.html On March 25, 2022 12:00:36 AM UTC, Ben Westover wrote: >Hello, > >I haven't been able to get any GRUB installation media to work on my >PowerMac G4. I've tried Debian,

Re: yaboot installation media

2022-03-24 Thread Ben Westover
Hello, try these https://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/yaboot-howto/ http://seb.france.free.fr/linux/ibookG4/iBookG4-howto-2.html My issue lies with actually booting the install media. These are of no help to me; I already know how yaboot works. it would not surprise me if the default