Re: PC graphic adapters on Mac Harware

2003-08-03 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sun, 2003-08-03 at 07:51, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > So the problem isn't initialising the chips without the firmware, but > what to initialise them to. Indeed, and only the firmware knows that in general, hence it kinda is a problem without. :) > The information with which to initialise a car

Re: PC graphic adapters on Mac Harware

2003-08-03 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 07:51:42AM +0200, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On 3 Aug 2003 at 3:54, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > Apparently, PC 3Dfx or Matrox cards might work, but possibly not out of > > the box either, so why not save the hassle and simply get a Mac version? > > :) (I understand some cards c

Re: PC graphic adapters on Mac Harware

2003-08-03 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 03:21:41AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 20:40, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > > > > If you keep using the original graphics device alongside the new add-on > > card or instead of it, this won't be a problem: Linux will recognise > > the card by its PCI ven

Re: PC graphic adapters on Mac Harware

2003-08-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On 3 Aug 2003 at 3:54, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Apparently, PC 3Dfx or Matrox cards might work, but possibly not out of > the box either, so why not save the hassle and simply get a Mac version? > :) (I understand some cards can also be reflashed, but you probably need > a proprietary OS for that, a

Re: PC graphic adapters on Mac Harware

2003-08-02 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 19:54, Simon Vallet wrote: > On 02 Aug 2003 16:11:52 +0200 > Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not hardware per se, but the firmware is a problem. IIRC only the tdfx > > driver(s) can initialize a card from the ground up, for others you > > should pick a 'Mac' card.

Re: PC graphic adapters on Mac Harware

2003-08-02 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 20:40, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > > If you keep using the original graphics device alongside the new add-on > card or instead of it, this won't be a problem: Linux will recognise > the card by its PCI vendor:device string, so you can still bring up X. No, as I said, this _won

Re: PC graphic adapters on Mac Harware

2003-08-02 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 18:11, Ole-Egil Hvitmyren wrote: > Michel Dänzer wrote: > > >On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 13:38, Simon Vallet wrote: > > > > > >>I consider purchasing a graphic card for my beige G3. Is it possible > >>to simply pick a "PC" card, or are there any hardware incompatibilities > >>w

Re: PC graphic adapters on Mac Harware

2003-08-02 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On 2 Aug 2003 at 19:54, Simon Vallet wrote: > On 02 Aug 2003 16:11:52 +0200 > Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not hardware per se, but the firmware is a problem. IIRC only the tdfx > > driver(s) can initialize a card from the ground up, for others you > > should pick a 'Mac' card. Do

Re: PC graphic adapters on Mac Harware

2003-08-02 Thread Simon Vallet
On 02 Aug 2003 16:11:52 +0200 Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not hardware per se, but the firmware is a problem. IIRC only the tdfx > driver(s) can initialize a card from the ground up, for others you > should pick a 'Mac' card. Do you have any particular card(s) in mind? I was thinkin

Re: PC graphic adapters on Mac Harware

2003-08-02 Thread Ole-Egil Hvitmyren
Michel Dänzer wrote: On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 13:38, Simon Vallet wrote: I consider purchasing a graphic card for my beige G3. Is it possible to simply pick a "PC" card, or are there any hardware incompatibilities which would prevent it from working ? Not hardware per se, but the firmwa

Re: PC graphic adapters on Mac Harware

2003-08-02 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 13:38, Simon Vallet wrote: > > I consider purchasing a graphic card for my beige G3. Is it possible > to simply pick a "PC" card, or are there any hardware incompatibilities > which would prevent it from working ? Not hardware per se, but the firmware is a problem. IIRC on